Andy Lloyd ~ 07/19/14 ~ Interview ~ We The Anunnaki ~ Aquarian Radio


Andy Lloyd

Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Lessin interview author Andy Lloyd on Saturday, July 19, 2014 from 10:00 to 11:00 AM, HST, 4:00 to 5:00 PM Eastern time on We The Anunnaki on Aquarian Radio (  On this show we examine the evidence that Planet X Nibiru is inbound and may affect our world just as it has in previous passings of Nibiru such as the time of Noah’s flood and the Exodus of Moses from Egypt.

On this show we discussed Andy’s books and how his fact and fiction books correlate to better explain who the Anunnaki are, the interactions between human and Anunnaki, the significance of Nibiru (Planet X), its existence and influence on planet Earth throughout history (and before man existed).  What is the historical evidence of its passage.  How has technology written about in ancient times become modern facts of our human science?  Where are we going with all this information and how can the past predict where we’re heading?  Will we create a being far greater than our own which will render Homo Sapiens Sapiens obsolete?  Will we join the Federation and as in Star Trek (theoretically), all forms, all life is thus respected and revered?

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Who are the Anunnaki?  Are they the creators of humanity?  How did the environment of the Earth create physical degredation for the Anunnaki who subjected themselves to our frequent orbits around the sun?  How did the Anunnaki remedy those affects on their bodies?  How does the Anunnaki story resemble the Planet of the Apes story?  How can human and Anunnaki alike become more spiritual and access realms and dimensions beyond this reality to improve life for all?

These and more were discussed in this amazing one hour conversation between researchers Andy Lloyd, Dr. Sasha Lessin and Janet Kira Lessin.


Andy Lloyd and Lloyd Pye

Andy Lloyd, demonstrates in his book, The Dark Star, that a planet beyond Pluto need not be cold and lifeless! He says that astronomers know this. This is not controversial for them. They understand what brown dwarfs are, and they realize that these brown dwarfs provide enough heat and light to provide habitable environments on planets orbiting these failed stars.


The Dark Star: The Planet X Evidence

Lloyd says that one might well be circling the sun, in the comet clouds that make up the bulk of the solar system’s volume.

Originally published in 2005, the book recognizes the difficulties that detecting such a body present – however, Lloyd puts forth a convincing argument with over 220 pages pages of research, 39 pictures and graphics, many in color and not in the original hard copy book. There are hundreds of scientific references that offer compelling evidence for the existence of Planet X!

Ezekial One

Journalist, Bill Bainbridge suspects foul play when his informant in the Intelligence community dies suspiciously from an extremely aggressive form of cancer. The last piece of correspondence Bill received from Lyn described a secret NASA project code-named ‘Ezekiel One’. Determined to discover the truth behind the ‘Ezekiel One’ mystery and a possible connection to her untimely death, he finds himself the subject of surveillance, intrigue and an attempted assassination. His courage in the face of adversity leads him to the greatest government secret since the Manhattan Project. But Bill quickly finds that the Truth itself is the highest obstacle of all. Set in the last months of the year 2012, Ezekiel One is an action-packed story of conspiracy, terror, and the End of an Age of Innocence.

The Followers of Horus

Author, Andy Lloyd, Dark Star: The Planet X Evidence continues the story from his novel and Sci-Fi thriller, Ezekiel One with The Followers Of Horus. NASA’s super-secret spaceflight to the Dark Star is barely a third of the way into its fifteen year mission when everything begins to unravel. Tensions between the crew of Ezekiel One and their mysterious mission controller, Etienne Lille, are building, with potentially disastrous consequences. Meanwhile, on Earth, an unexpected lead brings journalist Bill Bainbridge back into the hunt for the location of the Dark Star – information that will shatter the entire conspiracy. Unknown to him, his actions are being manipulated by a tangled web of Military Intelligence operatives, aided by the enigmatic “Tall Man”, Nathan Keye. When the Ezekiel One black project runs into serious trouble, a third power emerges, aided by the uncompromising Followers of Horus. For the first time in millennia, humans experience how it feels to become slaves of a god. As Ezekiel One finally approaches the planet Nibiru, the crew members wonder if the situation could possibly get worse.

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This is number 15 in a series on monthly blogs about Planet X, all things Sitchin, and various other bits and bobs.  July’s is currently being written.

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by Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, U.C.L.A.)

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Nibiru hits Earth4

Six thousand years ago, men from Nibiru dictated Enuma elish–the Creation Epic–to the Sumerians. From Sumer, The Epic spread to all Earth’s ancient civilizations; the Bible’s Old Testament echos the Enuma.

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NIBIRU’S MOONS, THEN NIBIRU, HIT EARTH Our Solar System grew from a gas cloud that circled its own center counterclockwise, cooled, and formed both our sun and, in Andy Lloyd’s formulation, formed also a dimmer pair-star, a subbrown dwarf Nemesis.  Both the sun and Nemesis developed planets that circled them.
Nemesis Orbit 










Tiamat, the very watery planet that would become Earth orbited the sun between the orbital paths of Jupiter and Mars. The ancient Enuma Elish describes how, four and a half billion years ago, our sun created Tiamat, then Mercury. 

The sun then, says the Enuma, sent Mercury with water and gold–comets and meteorites–to Tiamat. Planet-pairs formed: Venus with Mars, Jupiter with Saturn, and Uranus with Neptune.  These planets orbited the Sun counterclockwise, as did Tiamat.

There was no planet between Venus and Jupiter, where the Earth now resides and Pluto was a moon of Saturn Tiamat lacked a partner-planet, but one of her moons, Kingu, enlarged.  Kingu started to partner with Tiamat.  Then Kingu could orbit the Sun, not Tiamat. But, four billion years ago, before Kingu could orbit the Sun, either Nibiru or Nemisis invaded the Sun’s inner planetary system. (I call the invader Nibiru, but it could be Nemesis.)  Nibiru, newly formed, belched fire and radiation. Neptune’s gravity pulled into the inner solar system, where it changed the orbits of all Solaris’ planets.  When it approached Tiamat,” both Tiamat and Nibiru sprouted moons. [Lloyd, Dark Star: 41, 122 -124; ZS, 12th Planet: 219]

Nibiru, still plastic then passed Uranus, orbiting counterclockwise. Uranus’ gravity tore matter off Nibiru.  This matter formed four moons (called South, North, East and West Winds) that orbited Nibiru clockwise. Hit One: Nibiran Moon North Wind hit Earth: In the first Proto-Earth vs Nibiru clash, the planets didn’t hit but some the moons formed around Nibiru as it passed Uranus, hit Tiamat [Lloyd, Dark Star: 122 -124; ZS, Giants: 111 – 114].
Nibiru Incoming 1


When Nibiru pierced our Solar System, it lost three of its moons and tore four moons from Uranus.  When Nibiru passed Uranus, it tilted Uranus’ orbit. One orbit of Nibiru into the inner solar system forced all Tiamat’s new sprouting moons from counterclockwise orbit into clockwise orbit.  12 new moons then circled Nibiru (instead of Tiamat).  They formed “retrograde orbiting comets.” Nibiru’s perigee sucked off Kingu’s air and blocked Kingu’s orbit around the Sun.  Kingu remained Earth’s moon. 

Hit 2, Part 2: Nibiru and its moons knocked Tiamat to chunks.  Some 200 million years ago, as Nibiru again transited the inner solar system, the gravity of Jupiter and Mars tore three more moons, Evil Wind, Whirlwind and Matchless Wind, from Nibiru. Evil Wind struck Tiamat.  The collision knocked bits of Tiamat and its waters into clockwise orbits. Tiamat got genetic building blocks this moon of Nibiru had developed. We call the comets thus formed, retrograde ( clockwise) comets. Then Nibiru itself hit Tiamat and split Tiamat into two parts. 

The collision gouged a huge gap, the Pacific Basin, in the upper remains of Tiamat, leaving more of Nibiru’s genetic material on Earth. Nibiru knocked all the remaining landmass into a single continent on the side opposite the Pacific gauge. 

Hit 2, Part 3: Nibiru’s moon North Wind then hit the upper part and knocked it from its orbital position between Mars and Jupiter into a new orbit, between Mars and Venus.
North Wind Hits Tiamat
















From this new orbit, Earth stabilized and began to rotate on its own tilted orbit as it revolved around Solaris.

Hit 2, part 4:  Next time Nibiru passed through the inner solar system, it hit the lower part, the body of Tiamat’s remains.  We call these shards, which careened into space, “asteroids”; Nibirans called them “The Hammered Bracelet.”

Tiamat strikes Earth










Earth’s crust formed 4 billion years ago on continents, but formed 200 million years ago under the Pacific.  The crust, 12 – 45 miles deep on land, lies but 3.5 – 5 miles under the Pacific Ocean.  When Evil Wind and Nibiru hit Tiamat, no crust remained in the Pacific Gap, only a gaping hole.

Moon makes Pacific Basin





After collisions, silt ran into the gap from the land and volcanoes spewed lava into it; they created the thinner crust under the Pacific. Evil Wind and Nibiru broke Earth’s crust into slabs.

Nibiru Orbit Cropcircle composit of 3 pix


Then Earth “attained the shape of a globe dictated by forces of gravity.  Waters gathered into the cavity on the torn-off side. Dry land appeared on the other side of the planet.  Breakup of the Earth’s crust, plate tectonics, differences between continental and oceanic crusts, emergence of a Pangaea [a single continent] from under the waters, the primordial encircling ocean” led our scientists to confirm the Nibiran model of Earth formed after EvilWind then Nibiru hit Tiamat. [ZS, Genesis: 96 -105].






Earth’s tilted 21 – 24 degrees on its path around the sun.  Nibiru or its moon or a massive meteor shower 65 million years ago tilted Earth.  The tilt makes seasons; it also makes the days when the Sun, when it rises, seem to stand still against the horizon. When Evil Wind and Nibiru hit Tiamat, they gave it rare molybdenum, needed for enzymatic reactions.  Nibiru and Evil Wind set a “single genetic code for all terrestrial life.” In the Pacific, waters and life-seeds of Nibiru and Tiamat evolved together. [ZS, 12th Planet: 255 -256; 2010, Giants: 109-114].

Nibiru stabilized into a clockwise 3,600-year orbit.

Tiamat's Orbit











But in 10,900 B.C. Uranus drifted away from the Sun and sped Nibiru toward Earth sooner than 3,600 years.  As Nibiru flew by, Uranus caught Miranda, a moon of Nibiru.  Miranda, now a moon of Uranus, circled it instead of Nibiru. 

From 10,000 BCE. on, Uranus speeded Nibiru’s orbit to 3450 Earth years rather than 3600.  Nibiru returned to perigee in 7450, 4000, and 556 B.C. and next returns to the inner solar system in 2900 BCE rather than 2012 BCE as it would on its earlier 3600-year orbit (though the debris 180 degrees from Nibiru on Nibiru’s orbital path, its far LaGrange point moving in harmonic procession always opposite Nibiru, may be upon us now). 

Nibiru has its LaGrange points--places 90 degrees and 180 degrees from it at all times on its orbital path.  Asteroids and comets at these points always keep the same distance from Nibiru
Nibiru has its LaGrange points–places 90 degrees and 180 degrees from it at all times on its orbital path. Asteroids and comets at these points always keep the same distance from Nibiru








Nibirans can communicate with and even travel to Earth both before and after Nibiru’s perigeethe two “Heaven’s Gates.” The Infrared Imaging Satellite and the Naval Observatory confirmed Nibiru [MBOL 61 \f “WP TypographicSymbols” \s 12s existence 1983 -1984.]

“NASA attempted to hush-up” Nibiru’s discovery in an published then denied the IRAS sighting. [Freer: Sapiens Rising. Part 1; Lloyd: Dark Star: 75; ZS, End: 315 – 317]

Genetic material from the collisions seeded Earth with genetic material from Nibiru.  Disturbance the collision caused also created our Moon, the former almost-planetary pair to Tiamat (Proto-Earth).  The passing of Nibiru and its satellites sent gold-heavy meteorites from Mercury to Earth, setting Earth up as a gold depository that Nibirans came to exploit, and ultimately the need of Nibiru for gold brought the Nibiran Goldmining Expedition to Earth.  To get the gold, they created us, the slave race, to dig the gold and serve them in building, mining, armed conflict and tantric temples.  

“Earth’s crust, plate tectonics, differences between the continental and oceanic crusts, emergence of Pangaea from under the waters, the primordial encircling ocean: the findings of modern science corroborated ancient knowledge.  The only explanation of the way Earth’s landmasses, oceans and atmosphere evolved is a cataclysm four billion years ago.  What was that cataclysm [ZS, Genesis: 88-106]

The Sumerian tale predicted Earth’s geo-features.  “In the aftermath of the Celestial Battle, Earth evolved into an independent planet and attained the shape of a globe dictated by the forces of gravity.  Waters gathered into the cavity on the torn-off side.  Dry land appeared on the other side of the planet.  Earth’s crust is 12 miles to 45 miles thick; but in parts taken up by oceans the crust is only 3.5 miles thick.  While the average elevation of continents is 2,300 feet, the average depth of oceans is 12,500 feet.  The thicker continental crust reached much further down into the mantle [rock layer], whereas the oceanic crust is a thin layer of solidified sediments.  In the Pacific, the crust has been gouged out at some points 7 miles.  If we could remove from the Pacific’s floor the crust built up over the last 200 million years, we arrive at depths 12 miles below the water’s surface and 60 miles below the surface.” [ZS, Genesis: 93- 98]

“Scientists believe Earth’s atmosphere reconstituted initially from gasses spewed out from wounded Earth.  Clouds thrown up from these eruptions shielded Earth and it began to cool, the vaporized water condensed and came down in torrential rains.  Oxidation of rocks and minerals made the first reservoir of higher levels of oxygen on Earth.  Plant life added oxygen and carbon dioxide to the atmosphere and started the nitrogen cycle with the aid of bacteria.  “The fifth tablet of the Enuma elish describes the gushing lava as Tiamat’s ‘spittle’ as it poured forth, assembling the water clouds; after that the foundations of Earth were raised and the oceans gathered” just as the verses of Genesis reiterated.  “Thereafter life appeared: green herbage upon the continents and swarms in the waters.”  [ZS, Genesis: 134 (Genesis condenses Enuma.)]

3.4 billion years ago, “clays acted as chemical laboratories where inorganic materials were processed into more complex molecules.  Inorganic proto-organisms in the clay acted as a template from which living organisms [one- celled microscopic algae like today’s blue-green algae] evolved.  Defects in the clays acted as sites where stored energy and chemical directions for the formation of proto-organisms developed.”  Green algae’s “the precursor of chlorophyllic plants that use sunlight to convert their nutrients to organic compounds, emitting oxygen in the process after algae spread upon dry land.   For plantlike forms to process oxygen, they needed rocks containing iron to bind the oxygen; free oxygen was still poison to life forms.  Such banded-iron formations sank into ocean bottoms as sediments, the single-celled organisms evolved into multicelled ones in the water.  The covering of the lands with algae preceded the emergence of maritime life. [ZS, Genesis: 136 – 139].  

Crick and Orgel, our Nobel laureate scientists, say, in “Directed Panspermia, a technologically advanced society on another planet in a spaceship with due protection and a life-sustaining environment, seeded Earth.”  Crick and Orgel “rule out the possibility that the essential genetic material had time to evolve on Earth.”  They found the same twenty amino acids in all living organisms on Earth.  All Earth’s organisms, when they evolved, incorporated within themselves the same four nucleotides Athat and no other.  [Icarus, vol. 19]; ZS, Genesis:152]

The Nibirans “figured out evolution on Earth.”  Maritime vertebrates came 500 million years ago; land vertebrates, 100 million years later.  225 million years ago, fish filled the waters. Sea plants and amphibians moved from water to land.  Plants lured amphibians to land; amphibians adapted into egg-laying reptiles.  Some reptiles evolved into birds; reptiles on land grew to dinosaurs.  65 million years ago, dinosaurs died out.  We see “full agreement here “among the Enuma, Genesisand modern science.” [ZS, Genesis: 141 – 145]

Here’s how Sumerian, on a cylinder seal show this:
Solar System tablet composit 












References click here

Project Camelot interviews Andy Lloyd – Dark Star

Andy Lloyd on the “Dark Star” Theory & Why It Matters

Andy Lloyd: Planet X, Nibiru, Dark Star and The Anunnaki – Paranormal Podcast

Andy Lloyd – Comet Elenin, Nibiru & Planet X – Red Ice Radio – RELOAD

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