Interview by host Steven D. Kelly of Dr. Sasha Lessin & Janet Kira Lessin originally broadcast on Tuesday, August 20th, 8 to 10 PM Eastern time on Revolution Radio at Steven D. Kelly interviews students of the late Zecharia Sitchin, Dr. Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (in Anthropology, from UCLA), author of Anunnaki:Gods No More–Techno-savy ET Goldminers Who Posed as Divine and co-author Janet Kira Lessin,

 Spokesperson for Ninmah Consciousness. The Lessins discuss the Anunnaki and the extraordinary 2013 conference of ET contact buffs at the Joshua Tree California event, “Contact in the Desert.”

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The Lessins document how the giant gods of the ancient world and the rulers they choose created mind-sets that shackle us to short desperate lives. These so-called gods rocketed to Iraq from a planet they called Nibiru.

Nibiru incoming

Nibiru incoming










Nibirans stand way taller and live way longer than we. They said they bred us as short-term slaves and soldiers. We killed in their names: Allah (= Sumerian, Marduk or Nannar), Yahweh (sometimes Enlil, sometimes Adad or Enki) and Ishtar (Inanna)–mining expedition personnel all, all Nibirans. They bred us to slave in mines, armies, businesses, schools, governments, farms, factories, brothels and building projects.

Inanna and her hybrid consort, Sargon of Sumer   with conquered hybrids

Inanna and her hybrid consort, Sargon of Sumer with conquered hybrids












The Nibirans made us serve them and the “royal” lines of ever-murderous hybrid rulers and priests–the elite–they begat. The rulers Nibirans left to govern us by keeping us pitted violently and commercially against each other while they control the entire planet through banking. The rulers empower religions to bring back the god of their faith and defeat the gods and followers of other religions.

Sasha and Janet Lessin cite the works of Zecharia Sitchin, Neal Freer, Lloyd Pye, Michael Tellinger, Andy Lloyd, Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson to give us an evidence-backed view of our origin and the slavery and genocide perpetrated on our species by our ET genitors. The truth about our creation and development, according to Sasha, will shatter the fetters of lies with which the elite keep us in war, greed, poverty, shortened lives. Lies of church and state hide technology, knowledge of our ET heritage and information about the Galactic Federation. We learn, Lessin says, that Yahweh and Allah are genocidal maniacs and woman haters, the very antithesis of divinity.

When we embrace the biological and governmental oneness of all Earthlings, say the Lessins, and when we stop warring, our allies among the Nibiran can give us the advanced astronomy, medicine, energy, rocket science and survival strategies we need now, as space debris nears Earth.
The Lessins reveal how, beneath the lies, is the deepest truth: we Earthlings are one family, kin all.

Our Nibiran mentors modeled, dictated and indoctrinated a perspective of greed, domination, miscegenation, competition, hate and violence in us. Some 4,000 years ago, when most of the Nibirans began exiting Earth, the Nibiran leaders dictated their world view to their Earthling scribes. The perverse perspective prevails on Earth to this day.

The clay tablets the scribes left say a royal military dictatorship ruled the entire planet of Nibiru. From 450,000 years ago until 300,000 years ago (when they created us as adapted Nibiran slaves to work their goldmines) the Nibirans modeled hierarchic, male-dominated gold-extraction monopoly enterprise; this too, the Nibirans recorded for us.

When we learn what the Nibirans wrote about our genetics, we cooperate with everyone on Earth as family, all descended from the same ancestors from space. We can trash the master-slave-enemy mental matrix Nibirans scripted on us. Janet urges us to accept our common ET origins; nullify the demands of the elite the despots of Nibiru left to divide and rule us. Transcend the legacy of the gods.

When we feel our oneness, we survive together. We plan together for the periodic returns of Nibiru and Nibirans. We see how to survive debris that now bombards us from Nibiru’s 180o Lagrange point (180 degrees from Nibiru on its orbit around its subdwarf primary star, Nemesis).

The Lessins challenge anthropologists’ fixed ideas about our physical evolution as well as their view that the technologies we modern Homo Sapiens evolved ourselves technologically and culturally. Sasha believes he proves, in Anunnaki, Gods No More, that we developed when the ETs from Nibiru gave us advanced technologies.

The ancient Sumerians of Iraq, say the Lessins, didn’t imagine gods who taught them writing and told them what to write. They saw Nibirans–though bigger and longer-lived–as people too. Sumerians watched the giants run advanced machines. They witnessed gods shooting weapons of mass destruction.

In Sumer, then all over this planet, the ET gods gave our ancestors ever-advanced technologies and models of how to rule, relate, mine, store data, compute, write, build, trade and war. Earthlings saw gods choose their half-breeds to rule us. The gods kept breeding with our ancient grandmothers each generation, so of course knew the gods physically, kinesthetically as well as visually and by their bragging. Our ancestors everywhere on Earth saw, heard and even felt the gods. Gods were not imaginary. Nor were they gods.

Sumerians said the Nibirans gave them genes, inventions, crops and livestock that let them increase their numbers and master the environment. In the thrall of evolutionary anti-creationism, anthropologists dismissed what Mesopotamians, Egyptians, Indians, Norse, Chinese, Tibetan, Central and South Americans said about gods who rode Celestial Chariots, threw thunderbolts and, when Nibiru neared Earth, might give us crops, herds, devices, medicine, laws, knowledge and more Nibiran genes.

The power elites the Nibirans left in place today control Earth and collaborate to perpetuate competition and war. These elites descended from the bloodline of Enki whom Sumerians said was a god, albeit a flesh-and blood god. 300,000 years ago, Enki combined his genes with those of a Neanderthal ancestor to breed goldmining slaves. 13,000 years ago, Enki fathered Ziasudra (Noah in The Bible), ancestor of the elite that to this day rule Earth. The elite still employ a master-slave, god-worshiper code (with them in master status and we in slave–albeit economic slave–status) to run humanity. Ziasudra’s descendants–today’s elite–passed their mandate to dictate “from Sumer through Egypt to Israel through David and the messiahs, fostered by the Essene communities in Canaan.

“Jesus was an Essene as was his wife, Mary Magdalene, information the Catholic Church suppressed. Catholics instead perpetuated slave-code fear and subservience. They hid the truth of our hybridization and persecuted and brutalized the human-centered strain of the bloodline [that’s most of us].” [Gardiner, L., 2000, Bloodline of the Holy Grail; quote from Freer, 2004, Sapiens Rising]

Zecharia Sitchin, a Sumerian scholar, displayed evidence in clay and stone of astronomical, geological and biological knowledge ancient Sumerians said gods gave them, knowledge our scientists only verified many millenia later. Sitchin disproved the power elite’s theistic and evolutionary dogma. His findings solved the mysteries of missing hominid links and periodic leaps in our social and industrial evolution. No missing physical links existed because we emerged suddenly, when Enki and his cohorts blended their genome and Neanderthal’s. We got stronger tools and weapons when a Sumerian “god” showed the Hittites how to mine and refine iron.

Sitchin’s work breaks the elite’s stranglehold on us. The Lessins attended Sitchin seminars and read everything he, Tellinger, Lloyd, Cremo, Pye and other revisionists wrote. Thanks to these revisionists, we can stop dismissing “myths” as superstition.

Sumerians labeled Nibirans’ aircraft, submarines, helicopters, spaceships, weapons and computers with their own words and words the Nibirans taught them. Our ancestors called aircraft and rockets “skyships, “celestial chariots” and “fire-breathing dragons.” They labeled helicopters “whirlbirds.” A whale that swallowed Jonah = a submarine. We called weapons “brilliances.” The Nibirans called their computer programs “MEs.” We labeled Nibiran medical and scientific achievements “miracles.” Our ancestors also recorded the history, scientific words and concepts the Nibirans taught them. Each of our cultures added descriptions, metaphors, simile and analogies from their experiences to the words the Nibirans bestowed. We can now evaluate what these ETs said and decode our ancestors’ metaphors instead of dismissing them and the tales of gods as superstitious myth.
Abidos 1

3-stage rocket in silo

3-stage rocket in silo








“Sitchin advanced a coherent paradigm of our genesis to rewrite our beginnings and astronomically, evolutionarily, paleontologically, archaeologically and redefine ourselves. His thesis corrects creationism, redefines Darwinism. Sitchin read Sumerian as well as Hebrew, was steeped in the history and had material from the Middle East rediscovered only last one hundred and fifty years.” [Freer, N., 2004, Sapiens Arising]

In their book, Anunnaki: Gods No More, the Lessins review our ancient history and sense of who we are, how we got here, and how the new paradigm of Hybrids’ unique two-race genetics frees us from the model the ETs imposed on us.

The new view frees us the physical and economic slavery, hierarchic obsession, derogation of women, gold lust, antagonistic religions and nations the Nibirans and the hybrid elite they created dictated.

Free of short, desperate lives, we’ll create our future. We’ll activate our latent Anunnaki genes, better our genome and join galactic civilization.

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