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Published on Dec 31, 2009

The round things to the south of Johnson Atoll I’ve found out since are camera mounts….High ranking military personnel were supposed to have et with ets – greys,reptilians,”silicon-based lifeforms called “the Conformers”, and human looking ets on November 10 on the remote atoll of AKAU ATOLL, near Hawaii,as part of Project “SERPO”. I thought Serpo was dead and buried,but here we go again…. wiki=”According to the most common version of the story, an alien survived a crash near Roswell in the later 1940s (see Roswell UFO incident). This alien was detained but treated well by American military forces, contacted its home planet and eventually repatriated.

The story continues by claiming that this led to the establishment of some sort of relationship between the American government and the people of its home world – said to be a planet of the binary star system Zeta Reticuli.[1] Zeta Reticuli has a history in ufology (including the Betty and Barney Hill abduction), having been claimed as the home system of an alien race called the Greys. The story finally claims that twelve American military personnel visited the planet between 1965 and 1978 and that all of the party have since died, from ‘after effects of high radiation levels from the two suns’.[1] [edit] Criticisms One criticism of Project Serpo stems from the lack of veracity of one of its alleged witnesses, Sergeant Richard Doty. Doty has been involved in other alleged UFO-related activities (see Majestic 12 and Paul Bennewitz), and this makes the Project Serpo allegations automatically suspect.[1] Additionally, there is no physical evidence supporting the project’s existence.[1] According to Tim Swartz of Mysteries Magazine, Doty, who promised evidence to Moulton Howe before backing out, has been involved in circulating several other UFO conspiracy stories.[1] Swartz also expressed that the details of Project Serpo have varied considerably with different accounts. [1] It has since been discovered that the entire set of posts were merely to virally encourage sales for a new book by Doty.

Cited here; http://www.realityuncovered.net/ufolo… Further criticisms of the story include the usual arguments against conspiracy theories, UFOs, and faster-than-light travel, as well as astronomical knowledge of the Zeta Reticuli system. There is currently no evidence of technological life in the system and also no evidence of planets. Because the stars are widely separated (several thousand astronomical units), claims of excess radiation as a result of the presence of a second star are nonsensical. On a more fundamental level, it is entirely possible that the messages originating the story were deliberate hoaxes.

The postings were to Internet forums that cover conspiracy theories and UFOs, and a cursory examination of such forums shows that hoaxes are not uncommon. Some ufologists have even claimed that the messages were a hoax perpetrated by the American military and intelligence communities to protect real, related, activities. [edit] Discontinuation of website Bill Ryan, a chief proponent of publicizing the Project Serpo claims, announced on March 5th, 2007 that he was stepping down from his role as webmaster for the Serpo material. Ryan nevertheless maintains his belief that an extraterrestrial exchange program did occur – although he states that the Serpo releases definitely contained disinformation.[2] [edit] References 1.^ a b c d e f g h Project Serpo: Fact or Fiction?, Mysteries Magazine, Issue #15, Tim Swartz, November 2006 2.^ Serpo.org: A Final Update from Bill Ryan: 5 March 2007 ” – 1 1 10 HAPPY NEW YEAR

Brad Olsen ~ 08/05/17 ~ Cosmos Connection ~ Hosts Theresa J Morris & Janet Kira Lessin

Posted by on Aug 16, 2017 in Brad Olsen, Cosmos Connection, Janet Kira Lessin, Revolution Radio, Theresa J Morris | 0 comments

Brad Olsen ~ 08/05/17 ~ Cosmos Connection ~ Hosts Theresa J Morris & Janet Kira Lessin

Brad Olsen ~ 08/05/17 ~ Cosmos Connection ~ Hosts Theresa J Morris & Janet Kira Lessin, Revolution Radio (www.freedomslips.com), Studio B, 6 to 8 PM Eastern time.


Brad Olsen is author of nine books including two in his Esoteric Series: “Modern Esoteric” and “Future Esoteric.” An award-winning author, book publisher and event producer, his keynote presentations and interviews have enlightened audiences at Contact in the Desert, Awareness Life Expo, the 5D events and dozens of radio (including Coast to Coast) and television shows (including Ancient Aliens, America Unearthed, and Mysteries of the National Parks). Brad is a founder and co-producer of the How Weird Street Faire in the SOMA neighborhood of his home-base San Francisco. Brad was featured on the front page of SF Bay Guardian in September 2014. The Chicago native’s esoteric writing continues to reach a wide audience while he continues breaking ground in alternative journalism, public speaking, illustration and photography.

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BRAD OLSEN’s passion for writing goes far beyond his book publishing business or the online content he produces. His books have reached a wide audience across the country and around the world, and have won numerous awards. His work has been reviewed in top publications and he continues to lecture nationwide on various subjects. He has appeared on dozens of television and nationally syndicated radio shows over the course of two decades. Yet for all the fanfare, Brad Olsen likes to spend time with his friends and family, while attempting to be outdoors as much as possible.

Although the professional task of book publishing occupies most of his year, Brad Olsen is also the founder and event producer of the How Weird Street Faire in San Francisco, the city where he currently resides. Between writing online and print publication articles, new book chapters, and posting on social media, he also manages various websites, does marketing work, special sales fulfillment, administrative tasks, manages various projects with outsourced collaborators, and produces one of the largest festivals in The City. Wearing his publisher’s hat, he makes the stated goal of only releasing only the kinds of books he would value owning himself, which incorporates thought-provoking and critical content, and with a wide appeal to readers. His book publishing business CCC Publishing is distributed by Independent Publishers Group.


In a change of editorial direction, award-winning travel writer Brad Olsen announced the release of “The Esoteric Series” in 2013, with the release of two books in two years. Future Esoteric: The Unseen Realms was released to many favorable reviews in January, 2013 through CCC Publishing in paperback and all e-book formats, and has been re-released as a second edition in 2016. The second installment of the series, Modern Esoteric: Beyond Our Senses was released in March, 2014. A third book in the series entitled Beyond Esoteric: The Ultimate Journey is due out in 2018. The website devoted to the book series is: www.esotericseries.com

In 2015, CCC Publishing welcomes new author Leo Lyon Zagami, a bestselling author from Italy. CCC Publishing will release five of his books in the English language, beginning with the 2015 release of Pope Francis: The Last Pope? Money, Masons and Occultism in the Decline of the Catholic Church. In 2016 and beyond, CCC Publishing will publish the three books in his “Confessions of an Illuminati” series. The first in the series, Confessions of an Illuminati, Volume I was released in January, 2016 to much fanfare.

Brad Olsen’s critically acclaimed “Sacred Places: 108 Destinations” series added author Karen Tate in 2005 with her Sacred Places of Goddess title. The first book in the series Sacred Places: North America was released as a second edition in April, 2008 to rave reviews and a gold award for “Best Travel Book of the Year.” Sacred Places Around the World” was reissued as a second edition in February, 2004, and the final book in the series was Sacred Places Europe: 108 Destinations, released March, 2007. Both titles were nominated as “Travel Guide of the Year” by Foreword Magazine.

Brad is also the author/illustrator of the “Extreme Adventures” series of adrenaline-pumping guidebooks. Extreme Adventures Hawaii and Extreme Adventures Northern California were both released by Hunter Publishing in 1998. In July, 2005 he was interviewed for the television series on Outdoor Life Network’s extreme sports series called “The World’s Wildest Rides.”


Brad Olsen was interviewed on the hit History Channel series “Ancient Aliens” for two episodes in Season Six, which aired in December, 2013, and taped several more episodes for Season Nine, to begin airing in April, 2016. Brad has also appeared on History Channel’s “America Unearthed” in January, 2015, and the Travel Channel’s “National Park Mysteries” to be aired in the Fall of 2016. He was a guest on George Noory’s “Beyond Belief” which appeared on Gaia TV in December, 2015. His commentaries have appeared on Coast to Coast AM, National Public Radio, CNN, the X-Zone, Buzzsaw and the Travel Channel, among other outlets. Brad enjoys public speaking on travel to sacred places, the mystery of esoteric subjects, and extended global explorations. He has also photographed and written the script for over two dozen Tours 4 Mobile ebooks (uploadable travel guide podcasts).


Brad Olsen gained the distinction of “award-winning author” in February, 2010 when his travel guide book Sacred Places North America: 108 Destinations (2nd ed.) won the Bay Area Travel Writers top gold prize award (First Place winner) for the “2010 Best Travel Book for the Planet Earth” category, and again the top prize in 2013 when his book Future Esoteric: The Unseen Realms took the winning category of “New Age” in the Pinnacle Book Achievement Awards. His latest book release Modern Esoteric: Beyond Our Senses also placed first in “New Age” category of the 2014 Pinnacle Book Achievement Awards, plus “Modern Esoteric” won the top prize in 2014 for best book design by “Graphic Design Awards USA.”


Brad is a travel columnist for Perceptive Travel. He is also a Contributing Editor for World Explorer magazine. Brad Olsen has contributed to several Rough Guides titles, including the World Party guide. His articles have been published in Ancient American and he appeared on the cover of the SF Bay Guardian.


Brad Olsen has been a published artist since he was 14 years old. Starting in 1979 as a political cartoonist for his high school newspaper he continued his craft five years later at Illinois State University’s college newspaper The Vidette. His comic strip was renowned for its witty satire and biting criticisms. A decade later in 1995, he founded Consortium of Collective Consciousness Publishing in San Francisco, the city where his office is still located. The company has produced 18 book titles including In Search of Adventure: A Wild Travel Anthology, featuring 80 different authors. Key to Solomon’s Key: Is This the Lost Key of Masonry? by Lon Milo DuQuette, was released in the second edition in 2010. Brad’s first book World Stompers: A Global Travel Manifesto, now in its fifth edition, was lauded by film director Oliver Stone as a “subversive masterpiece of travel writing” and Publisher’s Weekly labeled it a “quirky chain pleaser.” His travel web site relating to the book (www.stompers.com) was Microsoft Network’s “Site of the Week” and continues to rank as a “Top 5%” Lycos site. CCC Publishing released The Tribes of Burning Man by Steven T. Jones in 2011, and the book won third place in the Sharp Whit contest for “Best Non-Fiction Book of the Year.”


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MUFON Symposium 2017 “Proof vs Testimony” as evidence – Basiago, Salla, Tompkins, Goode & Dolan

Posted by on Aug 15, 2017 in Featured, Videos | 0 comments

MUFON Symposium 2017 “Proof vs Testimony” as evidence – Basiago, Salla, Tompkins, Goode & Dolan

Mike Cox 

Dolan has no spiritual understanding…. UFO researchers need to wake up that you cannot understand what is happening with ETs/UFOs unless you understand spirituality. These people are quickly becoming irrelevant, or have decided to be completely biased against first-hand accounts because it is a THREAT to them.


mrcleandoesi why the hostility towards others,let them air their opinions and views without trying to shout everyone down if they don`t agree with yours Yeah we are all well aware of Dolans credentials,it doesn`t mean he knows more than othesr Dr Salla corrected him during the debate so it just goes to show he comes out with stuff that have no basis in facts or truth You are all over this feed like a rash my man what`s your compulsion in backing this guy up ,you would think he`s a walking ,talking God the way you are going on!


@celticbhoy14 — What hostility? The only person I’ve been even remotely hostile to in these comments is “InSimpleBeing”, as this woman is clearly nuts and is claiming that I am a government troll because I am skeptical of Goode’s story, and furthermore she’s tried to claim that I am commenting on this video under multiple YouTube accounts (laughable to say the least, but it’s starting to get a little bit annoying) despite the fact that I have absolutely no connection to either of those people. Where have I tried to “shout everyone down” that doesn’t agree with me? That’s complete nonsense as I’ve been nothing but level-headed, thorough, and detailed in my responses. On the contrary, it’s the Goode following that has been extremely hostile towards anyone disagreeing or being skeptical of his story. It’s extremely easy to identify that too just scanning thru the comments… So that’s slightly amusing that you’re attempting to flip it on me somehow. In fact, if you’d even read the majority of my original posts — I’d pointed out the obvious that all this in-fighting is counter-productive to what we ALL want, which is disclosure. You can believe what you want, but my comments have only been IN RESPONSE to the hostility shown towards Richard Dolan for taking a stand. If you want to choose to believe someone who has absolutely no credentials and no way of backing up their incredibly wild claims, that’s on you. I could care less really. But what we’ve been debating here is simply whether “experiencers” should count as evidence, and I don’t believe we should. Anybody could doctor up an incredible story and make fantastic claims for personal gain, that doesn’t mean it should be considered on the same level as documented evidence that can be verified. Hell, we’ve got enough video/picture evidence out that to show the reality of the UFO/ET phenomenon alone, not to mention the tangible radar data and thousands of related documents that have been released. The hundreds of REAL ‘whistle-blowers’ who have ACTUAL credentials to prove that they did work for NASA/government/military or whoever to have been witness to this phenomenon or the cover-up. That’s not to say that I discount “experiencer” testimony, but I definitely put it in a different category. I still think it’s imperative to listen to these accounts and use your own discernment, but that doesn’t mean blindly accepting everything that self-professed ‘whistle-blowers’ are claiming. So don’t get shit twisted and try to act like I’m the one on the attack so to speak when it’s clearly the Goode followers that have been so defensive towards any hint of skepticism as it threatens their new belief system.


Credible witness Bill Tompkins repeatedly interrupted & chided about time, while the plant Dolan is off topic– bashing everyone and invited to go on and on by the female moderator. So glad I did not go to MUFON. (CORRUPTED). I trust Bill, Corey and Michael and there assertions are corroborated by many others.

Ali Haisle 

Where is Dolan’s evidence of anything? He has none either. After 20 years of “research” he has absolutely ZERO ZIP NADA Proof of ANYTHING! He is a hypocrite since he says he is a “BELIEVER in UFOS”. A Belief does not need PROOF… it needs faith. and UFOS (if there was actual physical proof) would no longer be termed: “UN-identified” but rather use the new and improved definition of: IDENTIFIED. In Dolan’s “20 years” of so called scientific research… where is his SCIENCE? Science needs proof or at least empirical evidence or direction offered by process of eliminating what something is NOT. Dolan must use the word: BELIEF 20 or more times. He uses belief because he has no real experience. If you experience something you don’t have to believe it because you just relate it from Memory. It is not a belief but a memory. Dolan’s repeated use of the word: Belief implies he still has no proof. Hypocritically He has no problem believing the HUNDREDS of whistleblower testimony from Dr. Greer’s Sirius project. Yet not a single one of them has a shred of proof of ANYTHING they say other than to corroborate their work history. We must take them at their word and BELIEVE them …or not. How on earth is Corey any different? He’s not. One can listen to Corey with healthy skepticism and not go so far as to use the word BELIEVE but perhaps use the phrase: I’m listening to see if you contradict yourself and if it rings true. So far it seems to ring far more true than any thing Dolan says. And I wouldn’t trust Alpha Zebra Bill Ryan or Dark Journalist farther than I could throw his hat (if I could get it off his big head) (Speaking of Bill Ryan) …. So Dolan proves he is a hypocrite by demanding proof with Corey but meanwhile having no problem believing the hundreds of whistleblowers coming through Dr. Greer…who also have ZERO proof! Meanwhile (speaking of CULTS and brainwashing…) Dr. Greer SELLS a meditation set that literally teaches one to PRAY to ETs to come down in their ships and help us. Listen to it… it’s chilling. It’s like ET religious worship 101. Not that I have anything against Greer… but….

Ali Haisle 

REAL researchers do not refer to themselves as “Believer in UFOs”. He uses the word Belief about 20 times. Yet insists on proof. Belief doesn’t need proof….just faith. Corey doesn’t believe in UFOS. Why? Because when you actually have a memory of something it is an experience – not a belief. I drove a Volkswagen for years. I don’t have to believe that … it’s an actual memory I have of something I experienced. You are not me however so if you choose to believe me you may do so (and Must do so) when I tell you the fact that I had a volkswagen. You have to take my word for it…since I have no proof that it happened. You would shrug at this and say so? I don’t need proof you drove a volkswagen. Why? Because it’s common and believable. So you just choose to believe me. Belief is for people who have NO EXPERIENCE…or memory of actual experience. They must rely on faith… faith requires NO PROOF. Dolan is a hypocrite to claim he relies on Belief and is a believer (sic) in UFOs – but yet demands proof of whistleblowers. In all of Dolan’s 20 years and all his writings and lectures he has not offered ONE OUNCE of proof…of ANYTHING. EVER. Yet he demands proof? Amazing. That is neither science… NOR research. It’s called “collecting” other people’s experiences and memories and believing it. (or in this case he simply arbitrarily chooses NOT to…suddenly… after years of having NO PROOF of anything at all. ) Which , by the way cannot be called RESEARCH! Ironically he believes hundreds of Dr. Greer’s whistleblowers – all with interviews detailing amazing things. Not a single one of them has any proof! Yes Dolan has never complained about that or insisted they cough up proof. He rather conspires with Bill Ryan (who has a vendetta against Corey because Corey said he got rid of Entity attachments by using the name of Jesus and Bill Ryan BLEW A GASKET and after that made it his life’s mission to denounce Corey come hell or high water! Bill Ryan (who denies this) is actually a “Scientologist” – talk about some bizarre beliefs! – started by an occultist friend of Jack Parsons and A. Crowley… and so he insisted that Corey use HIS definition of what Entity attachments were and HOW to get rid of them. When Corey refused all hell broke loose. Bill Ryan has been working on Dark Journalist and Shane Bales (Ruiner) as well as Dolan for more than two years to poison the well and Bill Ryan’s own wife even stated that he (paraphrase) would see Corey destroyed if it took him to his grave. So who really has the motive here? Dolan is a hypocrite and so is Ryan and Dark Journalist is an oxymoron for someone who didn’t even do CURSORY research at even the most public and basic level on Corey and yet CLAIMS to have uncovered deception. (he has not). Dark Journalist is a flat out liar and they are literally gang stalking conspirators… not nice people…sorry.

Dyanne Gavin 

Mufon stinks!!!! Dolan is part of the Mufon bs. Wow, this panel stunk! The moderator took more time warning about time…wow, how rude.

Ali Haisle 

Dolan has no such valid evidence. Dolan uses the word “belief” many many times and even claims he is a BELIEVER in UFOs. Problem is Belief doesn’t require proof…nor real scientific research. I have always respected him but now he is a hypocrite. He doesn’t demand any of the 100s of whistleblowers from Project Sirius provide PROOF and none of them have. Yet suddenly a “believer” in UN-IDENTIFIED objects… (meaning there is NO proof of their existence) is suddenly demanding proof and pretending he is a scientific researcher? In his 20 years of so called RESEARCH he has still not produced a single ounce of PROOF himself. He also has absolutely NO PROOF that Corey is lying. In fact THAT is in itself a LIE. Prove it isn’t.


LOL… Dolan had been unofficially banned from MUFON for years before this appearance. So this shit about “Dolan is part of the MUFON bs” is ridiculous…. The only reason this panel “stunk” was the fact that MUFON, which has always boasted putting science to the field of Ufology, actually had on “experiencers” with no credentials.

Karl Kaiser 

Real leakers and whistleblowers are putting Dolan out of business. The more they corroborate each other the less merit there is in demanding “falsifiablility” of every testimonial.

Karl Kaiser 

The current rate of money being sucked from the American taxpayer by Israeli moochers is about $90 million, every week. This is happening while many Americans are drinking poison water from their taps. The official total over time is over $111 billion dollars. But this does not include gifts of military hardware, or the costs of the wars Americans fight for the benefit of the Jewish state. It is true that Trump, who is practically a Christian Zionist, is continuing to support Israel. Hillary Clinton would have done the same.

Ruby Kay all mut 

Why can’t she shut up and not patronage bill..also why can’t people just listen? And why does Richard have an issue with what bill or anyone says, keep to research Richard not bashing others!!!

Chad Cooper 

Ruby Kay all mut if you really want to know Dolans issue with tomkins fo find bill ryan’s and dolans YT interview s few weeks ago. You will know his exact reason.

Ali Haisle 

I would like PROOF that Bill Ryan’s Hat is NOT – in fact – an integral part of his far too large head.


You can always tell trolls by their nastiness, and empty, fake, stitched together Youtube channels. Corey gives us 5th Dimensional truth. Dolan and the MUFON crew are often stuck in 3D. To begin to understand what is really going on in the world one would do well reading the Law of One. The Tao stated is not the Tao. Deep State is Deep Space.

Mario ufo disclosure 

is that why you have not put any of uour vids up for 8 months haha

dk Stonewood 

Dolan has his head so far up his ass it has reemerged as an asshead. What a dork 😂

dk Stonewood 

F. Friedrich Kling Dolan is a CIA plant obviously. We have evidence from the 30s and 40s we don’t need any idiots modern day tellin us anything cuz we already know.

F. Friedrich Kling 

CIA plant obviously? Where is your evidence or is this simply your opinion?

Ken Rik 

Dolan supports limited disclosure; limited to what he believes.

lstar rtna 

Ken Rik By his high and mighty attitude I think your right.

Chad Cooper 

Not true. Dolan is clear about this. He has a gray box bigger than anyone, but he chooses to discuss only things he can substantiate.

Agatha Alexander 

Too painful for me to watch. Dolan should not have been on the panel. This could have been some really insightful, collaboration of information but because of Dolan it was nothing more than a debate over who’s right or who’s wrong. Good grief, do you think people really wanted to listen to that? People know what resonates with them and no scientific “proof” is going to change that. Science is conducted by fallible and sometimes deliberately corrupt human beings and organizations. I don’t trust scientific “proof” any more or less than anything else. I go by what my own logic and common sense tells me. Come on people don’t fall for Dolan’s game, think for yourselves, don’t be told how to think. This is what’s gotten us into this whole big mess to begin with. What a frustrating piece of garbage MUFON has put out. This could have been such a productive discussion with just the other 4 speakers whom are deeply respected. People want to hear their message for crying out loud.

F. Friedrich Kling 

Dolan is correct otherwise the UFO community looks idiotic if the evidence turns out to be BS as has happened too many times already.


F. Friedrich Kling that is fear talking. Because part of the coverup is a disinformation campaign we all have to allow for some of that and just keep cherry picking the truth until we break this oppression

Twin Thomas 

Cory is hiding something look at his face love him to death but what’s he hiding


That is a look of concern.


Corey is actually very shy and introverted and talking to groups is very difficult for him.

Patricia O'Donnell 

Real testimony

Sunny Wood 

your caps key is locked…

Mike Hunt 

Dolan is very unhappy when he sees so many whistleblowers around him he knows his days are numbered

Rob Lutz 



Mike Hunt I’d say he was more embarrassed to find himself sat amongst such poor company

Kit Kat1 

I’ll take a polygraph Dolan! My life has been interrupted by beings you’d shit your pants over! Get off the stage!

Sgt. Shill 

Kit Kat1 kool don’t talk about it… do it… easy to say you would or could do this or that.. till you put your money where your mouth is… shut up… just as bad as all these other fantastical story tellers… are there ufos.. yes… are any of these alleged whistleblowers telling the truth? maybe in their mind they are but that doesn’t make it fact or support with any evidence or fact that what they claim is true..

Mike Farley 

DOLAN’s dumb ass is sitting there talking about the nazi’s couldnt have had a space program? that IDIOT is saying that with a 90 yr old man who WAS INVOLVED! un-fucking-believe-able


Mike Farley, exactly right. I couldn’t have said it better!

Sgt. Shill 

Mike Farley if he is such an idiot as you put it for point out fact… please enlighten everyone here as to the FACTS supporting your opinion ? because you are in turn doing the same thing you claim dolan is doing you are basing your belief from 3rd party accounts

Tibor Kádár 

It was Richard Dolan’s asssignment to embarrass the rest of the panel. Corey realized early that this is not the place to convey his message. Tompkins was easily silenced, barely allowed to speak. This was a setup. You can easily differentiate the two opposing factions. If the SSP wants a coming out, it is time for a real coming out. It is time to finish the mindgames.

Sgt. Shill 

Tibor Kádár Corey Goode was too busy doing the opioid scratch… pills make you itch.. fact… lol

Marie Fontaine 

the moderator took more time than anyone else telling everyone how much time there was


Marie Fontaine, how true! And your wit is appreciated, too. 🙂


Dolan came off as such a Dick!

Sgt. Shill 

Christine really? how so? he seemed pretty reserved to me.. I would have given these con men NO QUARTER

Mark Domizio 

MUFON is all about slow disclosure, disinformation and lying to the public. The whistleblowers should not have gone to this event.

Steve Slater 

Agree, they should hold their own unhampered panel discussion and let it all flow unimpeded for as long as it takes…

Brandon Young 

Mark Domizio Whistleblowers or Alleged Whistleblowers? Am I right?


Why couldn’t Dolan follow the forum rules and just answer the questions? This isn’t a debate forum. Where the hell does he think the Viril etc, were funded from? geesh wait what? He’s questioning the German bell? There are photos of it with German military standing with it. Now I’m 1:05:00 into this video and no one has let Tompkins speak. Yes he is wordy but he has the first hand experience in the program including the documentation. The AZ MUFON dude – that was hilarious. This panel has documentation…were they supposed to bring in the reams and boxes to this forum? 🤣

gypsy spirit 

ceeagee, you are on target as i see it.

Cosmic Seer 

Agent Dolan’s job is to use the opportunity to discredit Corey, Tompkins and Salla whenever possible.

Nic Parker 


Donna Dungans 

I hope Nic is a computer, because your tirade is no better. Why would you type such mean comments when you’re mad at someone else Harassing others? Flag him and move on.


Billie Woodard (Zaraya), Jane Stevens & Zorra ~ 08/18/17 ~ Experiencer’s Network ~ Aquarian Radio ~ Hosts Janet, Sasha & Karen

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Billie Woodard (Zaraya), Jane Stevens & Zorra ~ 08/18/17 ~ Experiencer’s Network ~ Aquarian Radio ~ Hosts Janet, Sasha & Karen

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Below is an incredible first-hand account from a US Air Force Colonel about the inside of our Planet [courtesy abovetopsecret.com/onelight.com.] This information was gathered and written down with permission, from a recording taken on the phone January 10, 2002 (Greg Gavin/Onelight.com):

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TRAVELER TO INNER EARTH ~ Arrival and Indoctrination

I was first stationed at Area 51, Nevada, Jan.28, 1971 through 1982. In that period of service I visited the Hollow Interior of the Earth six times, 800 miles deep. Upon my arrival to Area 51 I was indoctrinated to the existence of tunnels beneath Area 51, and soon after I met several of the Underground Shuttle Operators that have a stature of 13 to 14 feet in height. These tunnels, that transverse the world, are built by a species of beings who have existed here before we, a very long time.

Immediately on my arrival to Area 51, I was made aware of the tunnels and all the workings of the facility itself. They told me that the first 15 levels of the Area 51 facility were man made; that Levels 16-27 were already there. Nobody from our government made them. We were just facilitating them.

My father had been stationed at Roswell. As part of my induction into the military he requested that I be stationed along with him at the Pentagon. There they said “We have a new duty station for you which will be Area 51 facility, Nevada”, Commonly referred to as S-4. When I went into the Pentagon I was a Second Lieutenant.

When I came to the Pentagon they gave me the field commission as First Lieutenant. After 3 weeks of being there they handed me my full Colonel rank, saying “you have to be a full Colonel to be stationed at this next facility”. There were 150,000 personnel in this facility, approx. 85% military personnel and 15% civilian. Following my arrival I was taken underground and did not see the light of day for 11.5 years.

The Tunnels and Shuttles

The Walls of the Tunnels are very smooth. If you were to pull a hollow tube through a ball of clay you can get an idea of how smooth. The walls have what is likened to a marble finish, which are made of a metal substance, impenetrable; the surface of the walls cannot be penetrated even by a diamond drill nor will a laser penetrate the surface.

Remember there was a time when we used to see troop movements from point A to B on the Earth’s surface, continually. It was not that long ago. Now, you rarely see this. Now they use tunnels to move all these troops at long distances. The tunnels are wide enough to drive two, 18 foot wheelers side by side.

Stemming from Area 51, one shuttle goes out to the Pacific Ocean – 350 miles due west of Monterey – where there is a pyramid; another shuttle goes to the Cheyenne Mountain facility

The length of a large shuttle machine is approx 1/4 mile long. Interior inhabitants make use of these machines – a huge vessel for moving large numbers of people/beings/whatever quickly. The smaller shuttle is 50-60 feet in length, this was the kind I was in. The speed of the shuttles is faster than the speed of sound, they can travel from Area 51 to the main interior of the Earth in less than 10 Earth minutes. In 5-6 minutes you are there.

The material used to make the shuttles is the same substance that made up the skin of the spacecraft at Roswell. The shuttles run on electromagnetic power using the Earth’s grid line. The operators who I mentioned earlier who are of a stature of 13-14 ft. in height, look like us in their appearance but much more highly evolved, and speak through telepathy. The men have beards or not, and the women’s skin is flawless, indeed having a perfect clear complexion. Their expression for Humans is one of concern for Us – as they see where we Humans are headed. There are seven civilizations residing in the Inner Earth – which are governed by the principles of harmony. They understand and they speak all languages of the earth. Their understanding of medical knowledge is phenomenal.

My Personal History

At the age of 12, while walking through a field of corn with another friend I had a paranormal experience. I was taken into a UFO vehicle and transported into the Inner Earth. Here, I lived for 6 months among the Hollow Earth residents.

You may imagine the wonder of my parents especially of my Father who was in the Military Service, at that time when I disappeared, then to mysteriously return in 6 months. It was due to this experience that I believe my Father made certain that I was engaged under his wing at the Pentagon and later directed to serve at Area 51.

I am not the biological offspring of my father, but an adopted child as was my sister. My sister and I were separated when she was put in the hands of the “secret government” for observation. They were trying to find the source of her paranormal abilities.  When she became aware of their plans to take her life to perform a research autopsy, she sent a telepathic call to Hollow Earth and on her next “airing” on the surface, was swift;ly picked up by one of the aero ships.  I was able to combat their negativity with my mind, which is stronger, and survived their attacks.

My father, Zorra, is a Hollow Earth scientist who has made 150,000 trips around the sun. My sister and myself are originally from the Hollow Earth. Our true parents and family live in Hollow Earth. When our adoption father took us in as adopted children we spoke a language unknown to any surface culture.

I have an unknown blood type. I have never had a disease of any kind. My blood has been medically examined and destroys all viral infection when combined with other blood samples in a lab setting.

Hollow Earth Vortexes

The Hollow Earth residents have the ability to split the ocean floor and create a vortex, as is shown with the Bermuda Triangle. There are 7 different levels in these vortexes, and equipment and beings are brought in and placed corresponding to these different levels.

The vortexes act as doorways for entrance or exit to the hollow interior of the Earth. There is more than one triangle area off of Florida, one at Lake Erie, and another off the coast of Mexico, one off of Japan; as well as other geographic locations of the Earth. These are called “Quiet Zones”. These doorways allow creatures from the interior to come out and in such as the Sasquatch, LochNess…etc.

All planets are hollow as is the Sun, which is really a planet. There are civilizations in the Sun which have colonies in the Earth’ subterranean regions.

Seeking Entry

In order to locate an entrance to the Inner Earth, where ever you are underground, all that you need is your compass. The compass will spin as if you are standing at the North Pole at the tunnel entrance to the Inner Earth.

When I left the Military Service, I no longer had a means of going into the Hollow Earth. It was necessary that I seek another way. I, and a party of interested seekers, rented a plane which took us to the very rim of the North Pole.

The People of the Interior

The people of the interior were very free with showing me around, very articulate in showing you what is exactly going on – they do not hold anything back. They always ask permission when working with Nature, they ask the plants for permission before consuming them or cutting them down, they ask the Mother Earth before they build on it, and do so build with the lay of the land which best suits their environment, a practice similar to the American Indians; therefore seeking to preserve a harmonious state at all times; wanting to be one with Nature at all times; they are more spiritually advanced than surface dwellers and greatly respect Mother Earth.

The atmosphere is crystal clear, as a rule there are at times clouds, but nothing like rain clouds. The temperature is a constant 73 degrees.

The people in the interior speak directly with the animals, and the animals speak directly to the people of the interior.

There is no need for hoarding, for everything is free, no need to create in abundance as everything is ample. A process of bartering is more common than trade in money.

This is basically a utopian culture with no depression leading into violence. No parties seeking to make war and gain dominance over each other. There are none richer nor poorer.

There are aero-ships (we term on the surface as flying saucers) in which a part of themselves, a part of their personality goes into the creation of the aero-ship through the process of thought, due to their very powerful minds. This makes the aero-ships perfect in design and execution in motion. Only a few persons of the surface have these similar abilities to create, due to the repression of these abilities in childhood by religion, education, and family fears. The people of the interior are allowed to enter the space of their imagination, if you will, and there they create. Disease will not enter their bodies – for it is not allowed.

As surface Humanity enters into the coming 4th dimensional phase, the Inner Earth people will come forward and more deeply work with us on the surface. People on the surface are presently so involved with the sense of “me” that they can not live together harmoniously.

People of the surface who seek to reach the Inner Earth inhabitants through meditation, will receive it. Children who are being born now are becoming more capable of using the wholeness of their brain, which is in common practice in the Interior.

One of the first things they showed us in the interior was their capability of interplanetary travel and time travel. The basis of time travel is likened to bending space, which comes through the power of meditation and by the acceptance of being an unlimited being. If you train your mind at a subconscious level that you are an unlimited being all things are possible.

On the surface, capabilities to experience this infinite power are more easily awakened at such Portals as Mt. Shasta which serves as a Space Time Portal directly to the Inner Earth. Once in the surroundings of Mt. Shasta you are drawn into the “harmonious state”. In my experiences at Mt. Shasta the Telosians in their civilisation underground in that area are projecting an aura of great harmony in a lovely atmosphere.

Area 51

Of all I saw at Area 51, 95% remains hidden from the public. Going into Area 51 is like going into another world, where they are terribly afraid that other countries and other parties are going to get “this” information. Their thoughts being “if we admit that the Earth is hollow, with a central intelligence in it, this is going to cause discord and fear”. This fear process is generated by the private companies who seek to control and advance their own needs and personal agendas through Area 51.

I left the Air Force due to their domineering ways by those who sought to act like control freaks, who were stagnating my ability to think and act in a creative manner. In accepting their Orders not to talk about such information, they take it for granted that one will automatically obey.

Because of my outgoing desire to share information and inform the public at large my Service Pension and all my benefits and rights such as the use of the Commissary, dental and medical, were taken away.

I was in the military for 13.5 years, from basic to the Pentagon and then to Area 51. The genetic engineering that is taking place at Area 51 is with our younger generation. The “milk carton children” whose photos were commonly seen in the markets in the past, were abducted and taken to Area 51.

Level 16 of Area 51 is the genetic engineering level, where they are using our children for experimentation in longevity and powers of the mind. The major force behind this is what is termed as the “Secret Government”. There are civilians of the Secret Government which are in control in several areas of Area 51.

There is a network of tunnels underground that go all the way to Europe, South America – the several continents. And there is an intermingling of this great network of tunnels throughout the globe, of which many governments use. God bless you and be with you,

Colonel Bill Faye Woodard


Colonel Billie Faye Woodard’s Amazing Agharta / Hollow Earth Testimony

February 12, 2015 Awareness
From http://in5d.com/colonel-billie-faye-woodards-amazing-agharta-hollow-earth-testimony/

Colonel Billie Faye Woodard's Amazing Agharta / Hollow Earth Testimony

Biography Interviewed and Written by Rodney M. Cluff

Retired Colonel Billie Faye Woodard and twin sister, Zuria were born in our hollow earth, and delivered to outer earth on September 18, 1951.

They were born with exceptional abilities. Billie can remember their parents talking to them as babies. Soon after their birth, their hollow earth parents told them they would not be living with them any longer. They were taken to Wichita Falls, Texas and put in a litter barrel garbage container in a park where a passing park attendant and a police officer heard them crying. They were retrieved and put in an orphanage and about 5 years later were adopted by a US Air Force Colonel Woodard, his wife and two sons. Billie’s adoptive parents were both of American Indian descent, the mother an Apache, and adoptive father, a Cherokee. Billie’s adoptive mother died this year and was cremated in a sacred Apache burial ritual which Billie was able to attend. The adoptive father is still living, but not doing too well in health.

At the age of five, Billie remembers talking to his sister when they were at a restaurant with their adopted parents and a nearby man exclaimed with great surprise to their parents, “Do you know what your children are saying over there, in their communication? Do you know that your children are talking to each other in an extinct language? I am a professor of ancient languages at the University of Texas (at Austin) and your children are speaking to each other in the extinct Lemurian language!”

Among the unusual characteristics Billie and his sister had was that they were born with both male and female organs. They were, in fact, hermaphrodites, but with the years Billie has become more masculine. Today Billie speaks in a deep masculine voice, and has become quite strong. Regrettably, Billie admits that the step father was a pedophile that molested Billie at a very young age on a regular basis, and invited one of the brothers to molest also, until Billie told some of his classmates at school at the age of 10. The step father would put sleeping pills in his wife’s drink at meal time so she would go to sleep while he went up into Billie’s attic room to molest Billie, where Billie was kept locked up most of the time. When the step-father heard that the word had gotten out at school, he immediately stopped molesting Billie and took Billie to the US Air Force base hospital and had Billie’s vagina sealed and the ovaries and uterus removed. With the female organs removed, Billie became only male. The step father then made Billie dress in male clothing. For this molestation, the step-father spent some time in jail and later the Air Force removed Billie from that family and was placed with another Indian family near Apache Junction, Arizona.

Billie’s sister was separated from them at the age of six. It happened when they were both taken to a base where they were given all kinds of tests on their exceptional abilities. At one point, Billie decided no more tests were bearable, and so with just mind control, Billie created havoc with the test readings. Soon after this, Billie’s adoptive father sold Billie’s sister to another Air Force Sergeant for $1 million dollars.

The military told them that the sister later had died in the tests that they had given her, but they later learned that she hadn’t died, but was taken to an underground base for more testing, and soon after was taken to our hollow earth by a hollow earth flying saucer that rescued her from her military captors.

Soon after the adopted father had gotten out of jail, Billie was coming home from a Scout activity with a friend, and as they neared their home in the countryside, Billie wanted to take a short cut through a corn field, but the friend insisted on continuing on the road for fear of walking through the cornstalks. After passing through the corn field, Billie was coming close to home when a man in uniform shouted into his mobile phone, “We have found Billie! Call off the search!”

Billie wondered what was going on. The parents wanted to know where Billie had been for the past six months, and Billie replied, “What do you mean? I just came home from Scouts with my friend.” The friend that lived next door had rushed over at the commotion and remarked, “But that was six months ago!”

So the step-father took Billie in to the military base, and an hypnotic session was run to help recall what had happened in the missing time.

With the help of the hypnotic regression, Billie recalled what had happened that late summer evening when coming home with the friend from the Scout activity. As Billie had walked through the corn field, Billie had noticed a bright star that seemed to get brighter and brighter until a round metallic shape was visible. When it got closer, Billie could see that it was about 150 feet in diameter and looked like a flying saucer space craft. A strange, but soothing, soft angelic music was coming from it and a pleasant voice asked, “Billie, would you like to take a journey with us on our ship?” Billie replied that that would be fun, and immediately began floating up in the air towards the ship and was taken aboard.

The flying saucer occupants were very friendly, but very large in stature. There were several crew members, but a man and a woman were attending to Billie. The woman was about 10 feet tall and the man about 13 feet tall. Billie remarked to them that they were very tall and large people. They said that Billie was a very perceptive person and asked how Billie was doing in geography at school. Billie let them know that straight “A’s” were received in school, and even recognized the places they were flying over. As they would fly over each state’s capital on the way north, Billie recognized and named off the different state flags. As they reached Canada, where Billie had been to Calgary at one time during the Calgary Rodeo Stampede with a step-brother, Billie recognized the city.

The flying saucer then flew up over the Arctic and Billie was asked about what was seen and where they were. Billie said there was ice and snow but didn’t know where they were. They told Billie they were flying over northern Canada and soon they were out over the Arctic Ocean covered with ice floes. The craft then flew through a big hole in the Arctic Ocean into the interior of the earth where they could see an interior sun shining and many cities on the interior surface of the planet. There Billie lived with them for six months. While there, Billie met many people that had disappeared from the surface of the earth, such as pilots lost in the Bermuda triangle. They were now large in stature. After living in the earth for a time as result of the less gravity there, Billie says this allows people living there to grow larger in stature. There, Billie also met his sister again, who told Billie that in six months time Billie would be sent back to the surface world. After the six months stay in the Hollow Earth, Billie was returned to Texas and was left in the corn field with no recollection of the trip.

The Air Force later removed Billie from the Woodard family at age 13 and he was adopted by the Henderson family, but with no change of name, at which time they lived near Apache Junction, Arizona. Henderson worked for the military but was not a military man. At that time, Billie attended the Apache Reservation school by school bus and graduated from High School on the Apache Reservation in their advanced gifted program at an early age.

After Billie graduated from High School, and after waiting a couple of years, the new step father signed an approval for Billie to join the Air Force. So after Basic Training of 8 weeks, and then advanced training for 6 weeks, Billie signed an agreement to be stationed in Hawaii, but instead was taken to the Pentagon and told that the next assignment was a top secret facility in the Nevada desert known as Area 51, and that the current rank of Lieutenant was not sufficient for that assignment and so he was advanced to field commission of Colonel.

On the way to Area 51, they boarded a four engine prop plane at Nellis Air Force Base near Las Vegas, Nevada. It was morning when they boarded the airplane and Billie noticed that all the windows were blackened out so they couldn’t see out. A short time later they landed and got out of the airplane at Area 51. To Billie, it looked like night time. Billie remarked as to why it was so dark and why they could see no stars. Billie was told they were inside a mountain. They boarded a staff car and soon started down a 45 degree angle incline which was somewhat alarming. Soon the car reached another level and Billie was told to get out and go into a building, and take off all clothes. Soon a pink mist filled the room in some kind of decontamination routine.

With a new set of clothes on, they took the vehicle down another steep incline to another level far beneath the previous level and were told to go into another building where a blue mist this time filled the room for another type of decontamination. Billie was given a new uniform that had a triangle logo with the numbers 51 on it. Outside the patch was another circle with the words, “Black Project” and on the bottom of the circle the words, “Top Secret.”

They then got into an elevator and went down to another level. The elevator descended so rapidly that they were almost weightless. It soon slowed down and stopped and when the elevator doors opened, they were looking at a nice little underground town with people walking here and there. It is located on the 10th level. It looked as bright as daylight just like a little town on the surface world, except they couldn’t see very far. There was a sun-like orb in the sky and above that was pitch black. Billie’s living quarters were on this 10th level.

Billie was then taken to an assigned office on the 6th level in Archives and relieved the previous on-duty officer, who remarked that he was happy to be leaving. Billie asked him, “Why?”, but he just shrugged and said that he had had enough. He said, “You’ll find out soon enough why I just want to get out of here and why am glad to be leaving.” Billie sat down at the desk and looked through the files and folders on the desk. The files and folders were classified documentation the military has gathered over the years on Our Hollow Earth. Among the documents, Billie was able to study a 35 page document on Admiral Richard E. Byrd’s journeys to Our Hollow Earth through both the north and south polar openings. Billie distinctly remembers reading the exact coordinates of the north polar opening that leads into Our Hollow Earth. A day later a higher ranking officer came and said, “Your presence is requested on a lower level. You were asked for by name.”

Billie was then taken to still another lower level that opened into a tunnel where a shuttle train waited. The new attendants who greeted Billie were very tall, one was male and the other was female. They seemed to be giants compared to Billie’s own height of 5′ 11″. They were similar to those that had taken Billie on the flying saucer at age 12. They greeted Billie pleasantly in English and invited Billie to step aboard the shuttle train and was asked to strap in. When Billie asked where they would be going, they said, “Telos,” a sacred Lemurian city beneath Mt. Shasta, California where Billie met their great High Priest leader, Adama and his wife, Raia and was given a tour of their underground city.

For the next 11 and half years, Billie journeyed three times to our hollow earth in shuttle craft through the underground tunnels, and subsequently also to many other underground cities located in the earth’s crust. Two trips to our hollow earth in the shuttle craft were on official business between our military and the inner earth peoples. The third trip was not on official business, but it was a special trip Billie made to advise the hollow earth peoples that it was futile to try to influence our military to become peaceful. At that time, Billie requested permission to stay in the hollow earth, but they wouldn’t grant permission. They told Billie they had a mission for Billie to carry out on the surface world. That mission is to let outer earth peoples know of the existence of Our Hollow Earth. Also that the hollow earth peoples want to be known, and that they are a peaceful people. The more that outer peoples know about the hollow earth and the peaceful people that live there, then the more successful they hope they will be in being accepted by outer earthlings when the hollow earth peoples do decide to emerge openly to the people of the earth’s outer surface.

Billie says Agharta is a cavern city and that there are two Shambhala’s — one in a cavern city, and another in the hollow interior. Billie’s mission was to interact with the hollow earth peoples and report everything learned to superiors in the Air Force. Billie took many pictures and meticulously documented everything seen and heard, and was debriefed completely after each trip.

From what Billie learned, the hollow earth people had been interested in trying to convince our military to stop their aggressive behavior as well as their atomic testing which was poisoning the atmosphere on and in the earth which could harm people in the interior and on the outer surface of the planet. Finally, Billie convinced the hollow earth people that it was useless to try to get the military and our government to change their aggressive behavior. It was a waste of time he told them. Billie suggested to the hollow earth people that they begin interfacing and contacting the civilian population of the outer earth instead, if they wanted to see a true change on the earth.

Billie’s contacts agreed and said they would start making more civilian contact in the future. They have since told Billie that after the present North Polar Inner Earth expedition, that outer earth peoples will start to see more contacts in the near future.

Billie says that in other journeys within the tunnel systems they visited many cavern cities and many inner earth cities. Billie says that there are tunnels made by the Rand Corporation boring machines, which are not as well made as the hollow earth people’s tunnels. There are tunnels made by the hollow earth people, and tunnels made by cavern cities of other races that live underground, and there are still other ancient tunnels made by the ancient civilizations of Atlantis that was located in the Atlantic Ocean, and Lemuria, which was a Pacific continent called Mu that is now submerged.

Of those tunnels made by surface governments, tunnels join all the capital cities of the world where government leaders can find asylum in case of war or natural disaster. There are many such complexes that exist under all the major cities of the United States, for the same purpose, but which the governments have prepared only for the survival of the government, not the civilian population, in preparation for the close passage of a planet-sized comet that will cause very high winds, earthquakes and tsunamis.

After visiting Telos, the Lemurian city beneath Mt. Shasta, Billie was taken back to Area 51. Later Billie was taken in a tunnel shuttle to the hollow earth.

Billie says that the shell of the earth is from 800 to 850 miles thick, and that the center of gravity is about halfway between the outer and inner surfaces of the earth’s shell, and that the inner surface gravity is a little less than one-third the outer surface gravity which allows for the larger stature of the hollow earth people, or any surface people that go to the hollow earth and stay there for a length of time.

Billie said that the hollow earth has an inner sun that gives photosynthesis light that provides life to the hollow earth peoples, animals and giant plant life, and that the hollow earth country is a most beautiful and harmonious, peaceful place, that even the animals are friendly and able to communicate with humans telepathically and are not aggressive. There are NO meat-eating animals in the hollow earth, but all eat vegetation instead. The inner atmosphere, Billie says, is so healthy that no disease can exist there, and if a diseased person coming from the surface would go there, they would be cured just by breathing the air. Before Billie was taken to the hollow earth at age 12, Billie had minor childhood sicknesses like colds, and tonsillitis, but when taken to the hollow earth, Billie’s immune system was fortified to a more healthful state. Since then, Billie’s health has deteriorated somewhat due to living on the surface again because of the pollution here, but knows that once he returns home to the hollow earth, his immune system will return to a completely healthy state.

When Billie arrived at the hollow earth inner surface, they emerged from the shuttle station at the hollow earth capitol City of Eden, the main city of the hollow earth. It is built around and within the original Garden of Eden on the highest mountain plateau of the inner continent and estimates it is located under the State of Arkansas or close to. Billie says that the world inside our earth has one continent and one ocean, but that there is more land inside the earth than on the exterior surface.

Billie agrees completely with the Olaf Jansen story, who were Norwegian fishermen that sailed through the North Polar Opening north east of Franz Josef Land, in 1829 — that the hollow earth is exactly as Olaf described in his book, The Smoky God — because Billie has been there and seen what it is like.

At Eden, Billie was taken before the King of the World, who is also the Great High Priest Over All the Land, to a beautiful pyramid type palace where the King sat on his great marble throne. Billie accompanied by Air Force Colonel McCloud, (and on another subsequent visit with a Colonel Stevenson) were interviewed by the King of the Inner World and asked many questions regarding our outer world, our government and the United States military and what they were up to. Upon returning to Area 51, Billie was completed debriefed and minutely documented all that was learned in Our Hollow Earth.

Billie recounted a time during the military years when he was ordered to fly a US military saucer at Area 51, known as the Sports Craft, the same craft Bob Lazar saw at Area 51. An alien co-pilot instructed Billie on how to fly the craft and accompanied Billie on test flights taken out at night. Billie had been told when assigned to Area 51, that he would not see the light of day while serving there. They flew up over Las Vegas, and other cities and played tag with military jets that were scrabbled to chase their flying saucer and they were able to fly circles around the jets. Billie said the craft was flown by placing the hands on indentations on the control panel that were shaped like hands. Immediately upon placing the hands, Billie had complete control of the craft with just thought commands. If Billie wanted to go in any direction, he just had to think to go in that direction and the craft responded immediately. The craft could make right angle turns at very high speeds, and fly any pattern — all with no g-force effects. This craft was of our making under the direction of the extraterrestrial, which our military has been building for some time. Billie said they had about 67 saucers built by our military black projects housed at that time at Area 51.

Billie also recounted how the many missing children that have been displaced (as seen on milk cartons) every year throughout the United States are taken to Area 51 where the military black projects are transforming them into programmed biological entities so that they look like hybrid aliens. Their plan is to use the flying saucers they are building and the hybrid entities they are genetically engineering from our children to stage an alien invasion from space to get the whole world to submit to a one world government in defense of the aliens that they have created. When shown this, Billie became so disgusted with the military black projects that he decided not to have anything more to do with this project, and decided to get out of the military.

After Billie’s military career was over, Billie was discharged from the Air Force at the Sewart Air Force base, now Smyrna Airport, Tennessee, debriefed at their deprogramming underground facility, and upon orders of superiors, Billie’s military files were sealed with NO access by ANYONE. Billie has tried many times to get a record of his military service, but is told those records are sealed, that no-one can see them. Billie was told by military superiors not to speak or talk to anyone of any assignments in the military. However, Billie told them, “I no longer work for you so I will do as I please.” For that, Billie’s military pension was withdrawn and today lives in Pahrump, Nevada on Social Security disability.

Over the years Billie married and fathered three children who are now grown. The first two children were boys born to the first wife, an Army military policewoman, stationed at Area 51. They were 5 years together. Later that wife went to work for the FBI and so was able to verify Billie’s military records. Billie has been married three times, but is now divorced. The second wife Billie married after being discharged from the military. She was a Cherokee Indian, daughter of the Chief and they were married on the Cherokee Reservation. Billie had a daughter by this wife. The last marriage was in Seattle to a UFO MUFON investigator and lasted from 1990-1996.

In August 1986, Billie went to live in Alaska looking for a way to go to the hollow earth to go back home. There, Billie enticed several people in an attempt to reach the hollow earth by hiring a bush pilot to fly as an expedition team through the north polar opening. Billie arranged through a flight service out of Fairbanks, Alaska to take them in their decommissioned Navy Albatross seaplane, which is a twin engine seaplane with a boat bottom. It was the same type of seaplane that the Coast Guard uses frequently today — as seen on the Fantasy Island TV program. Billie requested the pilot to take them to certain coordinates in the Arctic to 87.7 N Lat., 142.2 E Lon that Billie had learned from Admiral Byrd’s file at Area 51.

The pilot was concerned about how they would land out there on the ice, but Billie assured him that there would be open Arctic Ocean when they got to those coordinates. The pilot agreed to fly them to those coordinates, land them on the water and drop them off, and that he would be back for them at a certain time in the future three weeks hence. They took some inflatable power boats that they would use to continue their journey from that point on through the polar opening.

Unfortunately, before they took off from Point Barrow, Alaska, one of the expedition members who was a New York Times correspondent, made a phone call to his home office who Billy believes then alerted the military of their flight north.

When they arrived near enough to the polar opening and could see the light beams of the inner sun shining up from the ocean ahead, the pilot was surprised and very afraid and wondered what was going on since they could see the outer sun shining behind them also. Billie assured him that there was nothing to fear, that they were looking at the core of the earth shining out through a polar opening in the earth. But before they could drop down to land in the water and depart in their inflatable boats, they were intercepted by two jet fighters from the Alert Air Force Base, on the northern shore of Ellesmere Island, Canada.

The airplane radio crackled and a voice came through, which stated, “This is Lt. Colonel Travis of the US Air Force Alert Base intercepting team ordering you to turn your aircraft around IMMEDIATELY and be escorted back to Eielson Air Force Base, Alaska, OR YOU WILL BE TERMINATED! You have 5 minutes to comply.”

Reluctantly, they started to make their turn around. At the same time, looking through the front view of the aircraft, they suddenly saw three glowing disks appear — flying saucers — ahead of them.

The radio crackled again, and another voice came over the radio saying, “Billie, we are here to welcome you to our domain, as you have attempted to enter. We are sorry. You will not make it this time. However, your next journey WILL succeed! Auf Wiedersehen!”

And then the three flying saucers suddenly just blinked out.

Rather than disobey orders and get terminated, they decided to turn the aircraft around and do as the US Air force pilot suggested. They retraced their path back to Alaska, where they were instructed to land at Eielson Air Force Base, just southeast of Fairbanks, Alaska. There they were put under bright lights and interrogated and drilled by several agents of the FBI and the National Security Agency. They wanted to make sure they were not terrorists or affiliated with any foreign government. But after they realized they were harmless, they were released and given a stern warning not to tell anyone of what they saw on this trip, and if they were to try that trip again there would be no warning the next time and they would be terminated.

Billie says that many, if not most people in Alaska, have gone there with the hopes of going to Our Hollow Earth. Among the interesting persons Billie met in Alaska was a retired Air Force Col. Jackson of Talkeetna, Alaska that told Billie that in many of his flights into the Arctic out of Eielson Air Force base, near Fairbanks, Alaska, he saw the North Polar Opening and observed many flying saucers going in and coming out of it like bees out of a hive. Billie also tells of another contact he made in Talkeetna who had a ham radio and they tried many times to glance a radio beam off a hollow earth satellite that looks like a giant rock that is suspended over the North Polar Opening, down into the hollow earth to see if they could make contact with the hollow earth peoples that way. Billie says that one evening after his friend had gone to bed that he was able to finally make radio contact with the hollow earth people with this ham radio set.

Billie says that when his twin sister, Zuria was taken to an underground think tank around the age of 10, by force to test her abilities, she discovered that they were wanting to dissect her body to see if they could figure out why she had such amazing capabilities and characteristics. She then put out a mental telepathy call to the hollow earth for assistance and they came in one of their flying saucers. On a rare occasion that she was allowed to come to the surface, the flying saucer blinked into visibility, and she was beamed up before her captors could grab her — and she was taken home to the hollow earth. She is waiting there for Billie to return.

Billie is also anxious to return home to Our Hollow Earth soon.

Penny Bradley ~ 08/15/17 ~ Divine Paradigm ~ KCOR ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Alex Lessin

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Penny Bradley ~ 08/15/17 ~ Divine Paradigm ~ KCOR ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Alex Lessin

Penny Bradley ~ 08/15/17 ~ Divine Paradigm ~ KCOR ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Alex Lessin ~ Producer Tina Marie ~ www.kcorradio.com, 5:30 to 7PM Eastern time, 11:30 to 1 PM Hawaii time.

Penny writes:

“I was a Military Laboratories created hybrid, born in 1955. I was kidnapped in 1959 from my bed and taken to Langley for mind fracture and weaponization of my psi abilities. Part of that was a tour at Montauk, in the time tunnel.

In 1964, I was taken to Mars through the New York jumpgate. I spent 25 years on Mars, in school and as a fighter pilot in the war with the native Green Reptilians and the Mantids.

In 1990, I was transferred to Dark Fleet, where I was a navigator in a freighter for about 25 years.

In 2014, I was age regressed, mind wiped and time traveled back to where I was taken from. I no longer knew my family, and had lots of programmed alters.

In the lifetime since I was returned, I studied mathematics, computers and microbiology. I was married and had 3 children, now grown. There have been obvious blockages in my life path.

Age regression sickness started in 1981. I was still able to work most of the time until about 2001, when arsenic poisoning floored me. I struggled to regain my health and was working full time again in 2004. A work injury made me paralyzed from the waist down in 2009–I came back enough that I can walk and take care of myself.

I started recovering memories and reintegrating alters in 2013.”

Past Show:

Penny Bradley ~ 08/06/17 ~ Sacred Matrix on Revolution Radio at www.freedomslips.com, Studio B from 8 to 10 PM Eastern time with hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Alex Lessin ~ Producer Thomas Becker (amadpainter).

August 2 at 6:19pm

This episode is about my trip to Mars in 1964 through the New York jumpgate. About my time in Schule with the German colonists’ kids on Mars. About the war between the Germans and the Mars Raptors and Mantids [that the Germans started] and my service in Mars Defence Force. MDF is a combo of local police, national guard and coast guard that defends the colony and it’s ‘air space’.

Penny talks about her time in Mars Defense Force.

Super Soldier Talk – Penny Bradley – Secret Space Programs

In this revealing interview Penny Bradley bravely shares her story of how she survived experimentation at Montauk, childhood CIA assassin training, and 60 years in an U.S. Navy exchange program with the Deep Space fleet and Mars Colonies. After her service she was reaged and sent back to earth to live out the remainder of her life with health disabilities.

Secret Space Program Update – Penny Bradley Exposes Human Trafficking In The SSP & Her Experiences With The Dark Fleet

This is Part 1

This is Penny’s first “in person” interview. She suggested this spot near a lake in the the foothills of Sierra California Gold Country. The message is clear from Penny; business as usual needs to stop in the SSP programs. This is interview is not so much about Forgiving and much more about Revealing. Penny is one of the leaders in exposing human trafficking in the SSP. Why is this true? Your answer is the most important one.


Part #2

Part #3

Part #4

Notes by InTruth of Benjamin Fulford Blog

Lots of interesting info here.

Human trafficking is the largest industry in the world.

She was the navigator of a freighter that shipped human cargo all over the place.

Penny was ‘woken up’ by an NSA agent. She doesn’t know why he did it. He told her code word over and over until she woke up.

Problem is there are memory seals that come with booby traps.

1. suicidal program – kill your self
2. harm the holder – kill someone else. Partners have been killed.

There are ways to remove them. She apparently did so.

She was warned in Oct 2016 that the NSA agent that woke her up would be killed. She told him. He was killed in Dec 2016 during a routine visit to a PA hospital – no reason he should have died. He resided in Wash DC.

Penny was shot with an energy weapon in Jan 2016. They opened up a portal in her home and shot the energy weapon. This can be done just by knowing the coordinates.
They told her she can be killed anytime. Most super soldiers her age are dead.

She said about 20 people left Facebook super solder self help group, after they learned that NSA agent was killed. They are all at risk.

Entire SSP program is based on criminal activity. They kidnap little kids, drown them until their minds fracture, use them as slave labor. When they do return them home they are damaged. They keep using them until they die. This is what happens to the ones they like. The ones they don’t like, they turn them into a cyborg super soldier and sell them to ET’s so they never come home. So these cyborg’s are created out of human beings whether they are kidnapped earth humans or clones.
Peter the ACIO insider said they are now doing 100,000 cyborgs per day between the various factories. This is how many humans are being converted into cyborgs – 95% are being sold offworld to ET’s.

This sale of human cyborgs to ET’s is funding most of the SSP. They only us the head for the cyborg. The rest of the human body is sold off too (food, genetic material). They want the meta gene – allows one to create his own reality. Other super advance ET’s don’t have this and they want to keep us from using ours. This was on the show ‘Fringe’. (~2010 – 5 seasons). In the show there is a chronovisor that lets you see into a parallel reality. The CIA has this for real so they can see what happens in the future that negatively affects them. So they time travel back in time, and change the outcome. Andrew Basagio talked about this.

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Scott & Melanie McClure ~ 08/13/17 ~ Sacred Matrix ~ Revolution Radio ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Alex Lessin

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Scott & Melanie McClure ~ 08/13/17 ~ Sacred Matrix ~ Revolution Radio ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Alex Lessin

Scott & Melanie McClure ~ 08/13/17 ~ Sacred Matrix ~ Revolution Radio ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Alex Lessin ~ Producer Thomas Becker (amadpainter) on www.freedomslips.com, Studio B, 8 to 10 PM Eastern, 2 to 4 PM Hawaii, 5 to 7 PM Pacific time.

Melanie and Scott McClure are happily married and have been practicing Tantra together for 9 years. They are full-time certified Tantra instructors and founders of Ecstatic Hearts. They have studied many different modalities and styles of both Tantra and personal development. Scott has an MBA in Marketing, used to manage multi-million dollar brands and businesses, is a best-selling co-author with Tony Robbins and Wayne Dyer of “Passion: Living the Life You Love” and is featured in two documentary films called the Answer to Everything and the Answer to Health. Melanie has a BBA and was a teacher, dancer, and photographer prior to Tantra. They currently facilitate a variety of playshops in Austin, Texas and internationally at resorts, cruise ships, and festivals. Both were recently featured on the Learning Channel, Daily News, and New York Post for their outrageous love life. They have already taught thousands of people how to have more extraordinary lives and are growing the Ecstatic Hearts organization dramatically. They are also available for private lessons, speaking engagements, and customized experiences. If you would like to learn more about them and their offerings, please check out their websites www.EcstaticHearts.com and www.BeOrgasmic.com.

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Past Show:

Scott & Melanie McClure ~ 08/01/17 ~ Divine Paradigm ~ KCOR ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Alex Lessin ~ Producer Tina Marie


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ELIZABETH APRIL ~ 07/21/17 ~ Experiencer’s Path ~ with Karen Christine Patrick

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ELIZABETH APRIL ~ 07/21/17 ~ Experiencer’s Path ~ with Karen Christine Patrick



The Consciousness Question with Elizabeth April

Elizabeth April is a professional when it comes to expanding the consciousness you most want to understand. Elizabeth works with individuals who want to comprehend their past, present and future. Combining a mix of earthly exploration, along with a twist of universal truth, a more evolved, profound, passionate and meaningful life is accessed.
Whether you are sitting in her audience, watching her YouTube channel, or getting an individual reading, the insights channeled through her will leave you feeling in tune with the limitless possibilities which exist within your reality.


John Vucicevic ~ 08/12/17 ~ Cosmos Connection ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Theresa J. Morris

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John Vucicevic ~ 08/12/17 ~ Cosmos Connection ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Theresa J. Morris

John Vucicevic ~ Bio

John Vucicevic assists clients in creating Defined Benefit Programs as well as Personal Private Pension Plans. As President and Founding Principle of Bay City Financial, LLC in Panama City Beach Florida the mission of the firm is to assist clients in achieving the goals and objectives that are most important to them. This is done by integrating all areas of planning including financial, insurance, tax and legal strategies. In this manner his clients avoid speculating and gambling with their retirement dollars.  John assists them in gaining clarity in a world of increasing complexity by serving client’s as a “Personal Financial Coach.”

As a result, clients enjoy “Financial Peace of Mind and Wealth Optimization.”  John’s clients are freed from the chains of financial worry and are able to spend more time doing the activities that bring them their most internal satisfaction. They are clear about what is important to them in life and understand that money is nothing more than a tool for them to use to support their value system.

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Email: YourIncomeExpert@gmail.com

(850) 249-2082

 Website: http://www.yourincomeexpert.com/

John will be speaking on Cosmos Connection with TJ Morris on Revolution Radio at 6-8 Eastern on Saturday, on Studio B at http://freedomslips.com.


Nancy Tremaine ~ 08/11/17 ~ Experiencer’s Path ~ Aquarian Radio ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Karen Christine Patrick

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Nancy Tremaine ~ 08/11/17 ~ Experiencer’s Path ~ Aquarian Radio ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Karen Christine Patrick

Nancy Tremaine ~ 08/11/17 ~ Experiencer’s Path ~ Aquarian Radio ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Karen Christine Patrick ~ 8 to 10 PM Eastern, 2 to 4 PM HST, 5 to 7 PM Pacific.

Aquarian Radio at www.blogtalkradio.com/aquarianradio ~ Call 646-649-0893 to chat or listen

Nancy js a lifetime experiencer, a participant in the hybrid project and a messenger.  She is alien by nature, human by choice and here on a mission she believes she signed up for.  She is here to share the downloads and loving messages she receives from Mr., a Reptilan that has been with her in many lifetimes and the “collective mind.”
Her main mission is to a assist humanity in this spiritual evolution by urging them to come forward and lose the fear by stepping out of their safe zone and complete the contracts they signed up for.  She has spent the past 6 years reaching out to be heard despite the many people that tried to ignore her hoping she would go away and despite the many that worked so hard to silence her.  These are the very people that contributed to her becoming the warrior she is today.

On this show we discuss the following and much more:

Synchronicities and how it began for us.

  • Peoples perception of their experiences
  • How some still consider themselves abductees
  • How some are able to move to acceptance of being an experiencer
  • Experiencers who are actually participants.
  • Nancy, Janet and Karen address those that consider the Reptilians as evil beings.
  • Nancy discusses the title of her book and what’s covered in it.

Past Shows:

Nancy Tremaine & Kevin Estrella ~ 07/02/17 ~ 8 to 10 PM Eastern ~ Sacred Matrix ~ Revolution Radio ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Alex Lessin ~ Producer Thomas Becker ~

Join us on Revolution Radio at www.freedomslips.com on Studio B

Today experiencer Kevin Estrella joins us with Nancy Tremaine, a lifetime experiencer, a participant in the hybrid project and a messenger.  She was born in Detroit, Michigan and is the middle of 5 children.  Her father was a hydraulic engineer in the aerospace division of Sperry Vickers.

Kevin is a world class musician of the instrumental rock band Pyramids on Mars.  Kevin has been welcomed deep into the UFO community after having his own first-hand encounter with something not of this world. He has now begun speaking publicly and has been a featured guest on over 15 UFO radio talk shows. He comes to ArtistFirst to introduce guests who have been on-board alien craft, and have had direct contact with Extraterrestrial beings. Kevin will introduce us to many Alien/Human Hybrids who are currently on this planet. Find out how and why they are here to help humanity during this historic period of awakening.

They recently attended the Alien Cosmic Expo ~ https://aliencosmicexpo.com/ which ran June 23-25, 2017 where they encountered two alleged real extraterrestrials!  On today’s show Kevin and Nancy will describe their encounters with ETs (and other paranormal events from their lives) including their most recent encounters.  Are ET’s showing up at UFO Conferences?   There seems to be a pattern.  We’ll explain and discuss what’s happening on this show.

Listen to “Sacred Matrix with-Nancy Tremaine & Kevin Estrella – Hosts Sasha and Janet Lessin-2017-07-02” on Spreaker.

The 1st illustration from Nancy is a picture of a hologram.  I discovered these infected looking scratches as I was putting on make up.  There was absolutely no feeling to them and in a matter of 4 hours or so they were nearly completely gone.  I was later given a vision of bonding with my son Drax.  It was his little hand grasping my breast as we bonded.  The year was 2012.
The 2nd illustration is of me on board in 1961 and the beings placing the cylindrical rod in my hand which contained information I would not come to know for over 50 years.  The message was, “take this baton and run with it, be an Ambassador.
The title of my book is Symbiosis: A Love Beyond Space and Time.  

Previous Shows:

Sandia Zetas & Kevin Estrella ~ Aquarian Radio ~ 05/26/17 ~ Experiencer’s Network ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & John Polk from 8 to 10 PM Eastern time on www.blogtalkradio.com/aquarianradio.

Today we discuss Sandia the ET.  Join them on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/SandiaWisdom

Sandia the ET

@SandiaWisdom FOLLOWS YOU

I am Cmd. Tlkm from P’ntl, the 5th planet orbiting Zeta Reticuli 2. My crew & I have come to teach archeoplanetography & prepare you for Official First Contact.

Sandia Mtn., Albuquerque, NM

John Titor II ~ 08/08/17 ~ Divine Paradigm ~ KCOR ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Alex Lessin

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John Titor II ~ 08/08/17 ~ Divine Paradigm ~ KCOR ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Alex Lessin

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John Titor II ~ 08/08/17 ~ Divine Paradigm ~ KCOR ~ Hosts Janet Kira Lessin & Dr. Sasha Alex Lessin ~ Producer Tina Marie ~ 5:30 to 7 PM Eastern time ~ www.kcorradio.com


 Entered duty with the air force as an Airman in the U.S. Air Force at Dulce, New Mexico. Specifically trained because of his abilities to become an officer and pilot. He received intensive training on the latest air frames and power plants available. This included the TR-3B spacecraft. John Titor commanded the 177th Time Travel Division. Later he was given the command of a combat group in eliminating a threat to the planet by extraterrestrials.

He became proficient in martial arts, including karate, and kendo. He is proficient with all firearms in use by the military, this includes the most advanced weaponry not generally known to the public at this time. This includes plasma and particle beam weaponry.

John Titor retired from the Air Force and entered private life to make the public aware of environmental issues the world faces and force the issue of Disclosure with the government. John Titor is the author of numerous articles on politics, threats to the United States and the environment.

Previous Shows:

John Titor, TJ Morris, Janet Kira Lessin Panel ~ 12/14/16 ~ TJ Morris ET Radio from 8 to 10 PM Eastern time.

Alientology-TIme Travel-FLow of Consciousness – Personal Experiences as we build our our ACO Club for Abductees, Contactees, Experiencers, and Multidimensionals, Interdimensionals, and the Akashic FIeld and Stream of Various Species… John Titor, Janet Kira Lessin, and Theresa J Morris are sharing a gathering of various groups in cyberspace.

Here is the first few pages of my new book, “Continued: Chronicles of John Titor II.”

Chapter 1
When I made the decision to leave the military in 2036 I was very fearful as to what my future would be. Would I be assassinated just as the Marine General who sent me on the political assassination missions. Or would I be sent to rendition (secret military prison), never to see the light of day again. I did not want to live my life always looking over my shoulder and not knowing just how much time on this Earth I had left.

I knew I had to confide in my friend Rock who was a liaison to the US Air Force from Zeta Reticuli stationed at Area 51. I asked him if he would take me back to the year 2000 to live out my retirement years with the woman I love. Rock agreed to my request and started to prepare for my return. He was to take me back a week after I had last seen Marcia. The arrangements were made and within a couple days Rock and I made our departure to the year 2000. I traveled with Rock in his ship which was shadowed by another Grey scout craft.

As a gift for my long service and friendship with the Greys, Rock left the scout ship with me, just in case I ever needed to use it. As I was saying goodbye and thanks to Rock, Marcia pulled up just as planned in her late model Honda. It was time for me to start my new life.

From the very moment, I left the Air Force I felt relieved that I was going to be able to finally live a life with the woman I had always loved. I had longed to just be with her and be her husband since the first time we met at Dulce Base, 1978. From that moment on I knew she was the one. With my new life in front of me I decided it was time to let go of my real name and take on a new identity. My new identity came from a person that has been taken off world to a new Earth colony, so they didn’t mind that I took it. My hope was to just fade into obscurity and become lost in my new suburban life with my new identity.

Starting a new life was challenging at first. One of these challenges was sleep. I would be up every morning at 5 AM. I was so used to getting up and going directly to the mess hall to grab something to eat. Now, I had to go in the kitchen and make it myself. Marcia would still be sound asleep and not wanting to be disturbed. She liked to sleep in and I understood that. But, sleeping in just meant she’d be up by 7:30 AM.

Another challenge was not being in command anymore. I was used to giving the orders, but now that I was married, that quickly changed. I learned something very important early on. A happy wife is a happy life. In this new arrangement, Marcia called the shots. She was in control of the day to day, the food and the financials. I quickly learned that I was going to share in house work and clean up after myself. Then of course there were our two cats. I would feed, clean, pet, and groom them. I felt sure that these cats were from another planet with their strange behaviors. They would sometimes jump on us in bed to wake us up and then go back to sleep. These cats were just like our children, we were their pet people. I became attached to them and enjoyed their company.

My physical exercise regimen transitioned into yard work and walking around the neighborhood. I made myself visible to the community we lived in. As I walked through the neighborhood I would wave at the neighbors and they would wave back. Quickly everyone got to know me and I them. On occasion, I would be called to help them and they would help me.

Trying to stay physically fit started to become an issue. I started to put on weight since I wasn’t eating as healthy as I should have and I was not exercising like I had in the past. So, the weight just started to pile on. Marcia was quick to point this out and I heeded her words about it. I realized Marcia was now in command and I was okay with that.

There was one decision that I made without Marcia’s consent, and that really got under her skin. I bought myself a FZ6 Yamaha motorcycle. I had always wanted a bike of my own to play with. The Yamaha was used and had a few thousand miles on it when I bought it. It was a hobby at first, but eventually I would find a friend in the area to ride with. Henry had several motorcycles and was a retired mechanic. Everything was well until I had a bad fall on Hwy 150 on my way to Ojai for lunch with Henry. My fall happened very close to where Astronaut Pete Conrad, the third man to walk on the moon crashed his motorcycle and then later died. My fall knocked me unconscious.

The next thing I knew I was being pulled off the road by a woman, who turned out to be a nurse on her way to work. She took off my helmet and checked to see if I had any injuries. A couple minutes later the EMT’s arrived on the scene. Henry picked up my bike and stood it up at the side of the road. The EMT’s looked me over and said that I took a hard fall. I looked down at my knees and noticed my Kevlar protection had been ground down right to my Levi’s. I also had a head injury. The EMT’s then placed me on a board and took me to Ventura Trauma Center.

I was followed to the Trauma Center by a CHP (California Highway Patrol), he was there to make sure I did not have any alcohol in my blood. Lucky for me, I didn’t. After that incident, the motorcycle sat in the garage, I was very lucky to be alive. From that point on I decided to just drive my Chevrolet Avalanche truck or Marcia’s Chevrolet Corvette. That Corvette was her baby.

Since my motorcycle crash, I started making my health a priority. I would schedule regular checkups with my Doctor to help monitor my progress. Both Marcia and I were determined to stay fit and healthy.

I decided to cut out red meat, sugar and salt from my diet. In the past, I also drank alcohol and soft drinks, that also had to stop. I had never smoked and had no desire to do so. This made it easier to stay fit and keep the weight off.

Marcia and I thought it was time to get out into the world and start to meet people. We joined a couple of social clubs and this created a circle of friends for us to do things with. This was on top of our ongoing work trying to support the Environmental Defense Fund, WWF (World Wildlife Fund), Defenders of Wildlife, and National Wildlife Federation.

What really got to me and still leaves me dumbfounded was that people didn’t take climate change seriously. I knew if humankind continued down this destructive path that we were headed to a catastrophe in our near future. It appeared that everyone just seemed to ignore these warnings about the environment and continued to party on without a care in the world.

But even now it was getting noticeably hotter (100 degrees Fahrenheit or more) and there were many days in California without rain. Many Dams and lakes were at their lowest levels in years. Reservoirs were mud holes. Water for Los Angeles came from two sources the Owens Valley and the Colorado river. The California aqueduct brought water to farmers in the area.

Occasionally I would try to write about protecting our environment. After writing regularly on these subjects, I found periodicals that would publish my writings. Sometimes it

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Did you know a John Titor II want to testify before Congress on disclosure?

A concerned Time Traveler named John Titor II, sent certified letters to Barack Obama, Paul Ryan, and Donald Trump, in an attempt to push the disclosure of the presence of Extraterrestrial life on our planet.

He requests to testify before US Congress regarding “off world species” and that the US government and military has secretly been in contact with them.

His name is well known but he says he is not the same person we met in the recent past.

He believes the first John Titor was sent to try to spread disinformation into the public domain before the “real” John Titor comes forward.

But who was the first John Titor

The first John Titor claimed to be a North American soldier from the year 2036 who returned to the year 1975 to get an IBM 5100 computer, necessary to debug a problem on Unix systems in 2036.

On his return to 2036, he made a stop by in 1997 for particular family matters and to warn the world about the American Civil War, the World War III, and Mad Cow Disease.

John Titor gained notoriety after posts on Art Bell BBS Forums from “Coast to Coast” host Art Bell, there he made some uneasy revelations about our future.

His predictions and statements were not always correct, and his believers claimed he helped to change the outcome of the major disasters.

Understand more about the first John Titor and his alleged real identity.

Meet Lieutenant Colonel John Titor

meet-lieutenant-colonel-john-titor-iiLieutenant Colonel John Titor claims he is not the same time traveler that amazed the internet community around Art Bell BBS Forums and Coast to Coast AM audience.

John Titor || doesn’t understand why his name was used in such a way.

Based at Area 51, John Titor II began traveling through time on missions for a highly-secretive arm of the U.S. Air Force in 1979.

He also claims to serve as commander of the 177th Time Travel Division from the years 2030 to 2036.

John Titor II Time Travel training

would-the-tr-3b-spacecraft-be-a-time-travel-machineHe doesn’t believe been born. But he remembers to awaken in 1979, at age 27 years old. Years later an Alien Friend told him he was a clone.

John Titor begins his military career in the Air Force as an Airman in the U.S. Air Force at Dulce, New Mexico.

He trained, specifically, because of his abilities to become a potential officer and pilot.

Titor II received an intensive training on the latest airframes and powerplants available, this includes spacecraft, the TR-3B spacecraft.

He served as commander of the 177th Time Travel Division at Area 51 and later the command of a combat group in eliminating a threat to the planet by extraterrestrials from 2030 to 2036.

John Titor II traveled to the year 2050 for environmental research and went to the past to the around 200 B.C. (in Asia).

John Titor II retirement

John Titor II Time TravelerIn 20136, John Titor decided to retirement from military career and leave the 177th Time Travel Division.

Titor chose to go back in time and live with the love of his life in the year 2000.

He purposely did not use government resources to go back in time, thanks to the TR-3B aircraft from a Grey friend.

John Titor is and remains a security nightmare for the U.S. government.

John Titor X John Titor

disclosed-chronicles-of-john-titor-iiHe came back to this timeline, in the year 2000, because he felt in love with a woman trying to bring awareness to environmental while she worked with Al Gore.

Right after arriving at the year 2000 and restarting his life with his girlfriend, soon-to-be wife, Titor became hearing his names on the news.

Worst than that. He started to read of John Titors that were time travelers.

For him it was clear it was disinformation planted in the media, it had no scientific basis for time travel or anything else.

He believed the information intention was presented to discredit him in case he decided to tells what he knew.

Soon after that, John was notified that both he and his wife were at risk.

They became reclusive living in a security government compound in Palmdale, California.

Not as prisoners, but protected by the government with an electrified fence, guard dogs, and twenty-four hours armed security.

Remember, although no longer time traveling, John Titor II continues to consult with the Department of Defense.

At this point, 2016) John is not in good health. The doctors believe he has around 74 years old.

For that reason, he believes it is time to tell his story into the public domain before it is too late.

He wrote his biography, “Disclosed: Chronicles of John Titor II”, with the help of Canadian authors Bob Mitchell and Jason Quitt by interviews by Skype.

Bob Mitchell, unfortunately, passed away in October 2016 from pancreatic cancer not long after being interviewed on Coast to Coast by George Noory, on September 1, 2016.

Now, Lieutenant Colonel John Titor answer as John Titor II, the Chief Executive Officer of the 177th Science Foundation

John Titor II revelations

laboratory-in-dulce-new-mexicoJohn Titor II reveals made some uneasy revelations about past and future involving the US government:

  • The existence of at least two different off-world colonies.
  • U.S. military recognizes three alien species, the Greys, the Reptilians and the Tall Whites.
  • For nearly 70 years has been working with these aliens under a signed treaties.
  • The U.S. military has a fighting force of thousands of genetically-engineered cloned super soldiers.
  • For John Titor II all three alien races are friendly.
    He claims has knowledge of a confrontation between Humans and the Greys on Military Base/Laboratory in Dulce, New Mexico.
    The Greys and Humans worked in this underground facility studying and performing genetics experiments in humans.
    Humans and aliens died in the battle that is known as the Dulce Firefight.
  • Mandela Effect is real, our timeline changed without us knowing it.
  • Humanity’s extinction and Earth’s inevitable environmental Armageddon.
  • Barack Obama is a clone, with implanted memories, as some of the past presidents
  • In one mission a team watched the JFK assassination. According to him, it was a triangular shooting setup. His team followed and identified the perpetrators.
  • During a diplomatic travel, he visited Niburu, the legendary planet X.
  • He never interacted or had knowledge of the existence of the alien races type known as Pleiades or Nordics. Two of the most popular alien races described by contactees.
  • All time traveler carry a device with a similar shape of the iPhone 7. This device initiates the time travel providers.

Different from the first John Titor, John Titor II doesn’t make many predictions but hit on the nail in one, probably unintentional.

John Titor II knew about Donald Trump victory

John Titor II knew about Donald Trump victoryAccording to writers, he insisted the book, “Disclosed: Chronicles of John Titor II”, was released on September 1st, 2016.

Not the day after the US 2016 Presidential election as previously schedule.

While researching, for this article, in October 2016, I noticed something on his letter asking to testify before US Congress.

Among all the names he sent the letter is included the name of, at the time, US President candidate Donald Trump, but not his adversary, Hillary Clinton.

Titor sent letters to Antonio Guterres, Ban Ki-Moon, President Barack Obama, Paul Ryan and Donald Trump.

Did he know Hillary was going to lose one more election?

2018 World War III according to John Titor II

2018 World War III according to John Titor IIBasic every timer traveler predicts or talks about a war that will destroy the planet. John Titor II is not different.

He projected the WWIII to 2018.

The US President and vice president will suffer radiation poison from an Iranian nuclear attack.

Millions will perish in America.

The US response will devastate to the rest of the world.

But he also tells that, together with his team, he had missions to avoid this outcome.

John Titor II’s letters up the chain of command of the US Government and the UN

On October 19, 2016, a press release informed the intention of John Titor to testify before Congress in an attempt to push the disclosure of Extraterrestrial life.

Titor II sent certified letters up the chain of command of the US Government and the UN, Antonio Guterres, Ban Ki-Moon, President Barack Obama, Paul Ryan and Donald Trump.

Below the full letter sent to the Speaker of the House, Congressman Paul Ryan.

Congressman Paul Ryan
Speaker of the House
Washington, DC Office
1233 Longworth HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515

Mr. Paul Ryan

The earth has been visited by extraterrestrial species from the time that the earth could sustain life. There is much to suggest that the Earth is an engineered planet and that the solar system we live in has been engineered. Engineered by an intelligence far greater than we are now and possibly ever have been in the past. Some seventeen thousand years ago the Annunaki had successfully colonized this planet. That civilization although a type five on the Kardashev scale failed. Currently, civilization on this planet is about to fail. Currently, Earth’s civilization is a type zero on that scale.
Records of visiting extraterrestrial species are left everywhere on this planet in stone. Stones that cannot be lifted even today with available machinery. Stone was a chosen media for leaving behind a record of their presence.

At the end of World War II there was increased extraterrestrial and UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) activity. The armies of the United States and its allies were exhausted. Demonstration of extraterrestrial power to General Dwight D. Eisenhower demonstrated that these extraterrestrial species were superior to mankind on earth. These extraterrestrial species could out fly anything available in the 1950’s. These same space craft could submerge and then fly out of oceans and lakes.

The United States of America signed cooperative agreements with extraterrestrial species. It is suspected that NATO allies signed similar agreements. These agreements gave unfettered access to the airspace of the Earth and set aside secure space ports to be used by extraterrestrials. There are also mutual defense agreements in place in the event of war.

There are over eighty extraterrestrial species that are known. The Annunaki, Greys, Tall Whites, and Reptilians are known to the United States government. We have been invited to form an alliance or federation with them.

One, I encourage the United Nations to adopt a policy of befriending off world species whenever possible. Two, we need to form an alliance with off world species whenever possible.

We have had cases of abductions of our species and animal mutilations from extraterrestrial species conducting research on our species. These activities by extraterrestrials should not be condoned. Tissue samples must be requested through diplomatic channels. We have every right to expect that laws of our planet will be respected with adherence.

There are two pressing issues that impact mankind’s survival on this planet. One, if mankind is to survive on this planet wars of conquest must be outlawed. Wars based on religious beliefs and religious bigotry must cease. Two, the environment of this planet has been abused and we are dangerously close to extinction because of mankind’s inability to stop the abuse. Global Warming is fact and not fiction.

I request that I be allowed to address a joint session of the United States Congress at the first opportunity regarding off world species that the United States government and the military have been in contact with together.

John Titor II
John Titor II
Chief Executive Officer
177th Science Foundation
Author “Disclosed: Chronicles of John Titor II”
cc: Donald Trump (Republican Nominee President of the United States)

Panel: John Titor II, Theresa J. Morris & Janet Kira Lessin ~ 12/06/16 ~ Aquarian Radio ~ Abductess, Contactees, Experiencers  on Aquarian Radio from 8 to 10 PM Eastern time.

On this show we discuss Alientology and UFOlogy, contactees, clones, androids, breakaway civilizations, the secret space program, aliens, Greys, Reptilians, Tall Whites, Anunnaki and other related species and/or those beings interacting and working together.

Abductees, Contactees, and Experiencers are now all groups of people sharing Alientology & Ufology – which are now subjects spoken of among many people of earth. Regular radio show hosts Janet & TJ invited John Titor to join them in a discussion of the Extraordinary kind including phenomenology. We the people of earth share humanity and know and believe in our own experiences as our own truth. Three individuals with similar interests share their world and work as authors. They share interests in alientology and ufology. Hear their comparisons and similar stories tonight! Synergy is the link among these three to bring a bonafide reality into our existence known as Alientology.


John Titor II ~ 11/20/16 ~ Sacred Matrix ~ Revolution Radio ~ Hosts Janet, Dr. Sasha & Karen on www.freedomslips.com, Sunday, November 20, 2016 from 8 to 10 PM Eastern time.

On this show we further fleshed out John’s story as a military created “clone” who was awakened at age 27 with full memories of a life he never actually lived.  When he was awakened he began his military career as a time traveler/space ship pilot.  He was transferred to the infamous Area 51 where he piloted secret alien technology craft and interacted with aliens which included Greys, Tall Whites, Reptilians and the Anunnaki.  He even visited Nibiru and a second planet colonizes by the Anunnaki.  Star Trek like space ports and programs exist.  Gene Roddenberry was right.  We humans awake and aware desire to join the Federation.  Trump stop denying us our rights to advanced technologies and cures for aging, death and disease so we now ALL enter the Golden Age of Aquarius (Enki/Ea/Neptune).

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Previous Show:

Hosts Theresa J. Morris, Janet Kira Lessin & Thomas Becker interview John Titor II on the Cosmos Connection on Saturday, November 19, 2016 from 6 to 8 PM Eastern time.

Hosts Janet Kira Lessin, Karen Patrick & Korey Lavoie interview John Titor II and Jason Quitt on Thursday, November 17, 2016 on Aquarian Radio (www.blogtalkradio.com/aquarianradio) from 8 to 10 Eastern.

John Titor II Bio

John entered duty with the air force as an Airman in the U.S. Air Force at Dulce, New Mexico.  He was specifically trained because of his abilities to become an officer and pilot. He received intensive training on the latest air frames and power plants available which included the TR-3B Astra spacecraft. John commanded the 177th Time Travel Division. Later he was given the command of a combat group focused on eliminating a threat to the planet by extraterrestrials.

Kardashev scale

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
This article is about a measuring method. For the album by Greydon Square, see The Kardashev Scale (album).

The Kardashev scale is a method of measuring a civilization‘s level of technological advancement, based on the amount of energy a civilization is able to use for communication.[1] The scale has three designated categories:

  • A Type I civilization – also called planetary civilization – can use and store energy which reaches its planet from the neighboring star.
  • A Type II civilization can harness the total energy of its planet’s parent star (the most popular hypothetical concept being the Dyson sphere—a device which would encompass the entire star and transfer its energy to the planet(s)).
  • A Type III civilization can control energy on the scale of its entire host galaxy.[2]

The scale is hypothetical, and regards energy consumption on a cosmic scale. It was proposed in 1964 by the Soviet astronomer Nikolai Kardashev. Various extensions of the scale have since been proposed, including a wider range of power levels (types 0, IV and V) and the use of metrics other than pure power.


In 1964, Kardashev defined three levels of civilizations, based on the order of magnitude of power available to them:

Type I
“Technological level of a civilization that can harness all the energy that falls on a planet from its parent star (for Earth-Sun system, this value is close to 7×1017 watts) , which is quite higher than the amount that presently attained on earth, with energy consumption at ≈4×1019 erg/sec (4 × 1012 watts).”[1] The astronomer Guillermo A. Lemarchand stated this as “A level near contemporary terrestrial civilization with an energy capability equivalent to the solar insolation on Earth, between 1016 and 1017 watts.”[3]
Type II
“A civilization capable of harnessing the energy radiated by its own star”–for example, the stage of successful construction of a Dyson sphere–“with energy consumption at ≈4×1033 erg/sec.”[1] Lemarchand stated this as “A civilization capable of utilizing and channeling the entire radiation output of its star. The energy utilization would then be comparable to the luminosity of our Sun, about 4×1033 erg/sec (4×1026 watts).”[3]
Type III
“A civilization in possession of energy on the scale of its own galaxy, with energy consumption at ≈4×1044 erg/sec.”[1] Lemarchand stated this as “A civilization with access to the power comparable to the luminosity of the entire Milky Way galaxy, about 4×1044erg/sec (4×1037 watts).”[3]

Three schematic representations: Earth, Solar System and Milky Way

Energy consumption estimated in three types of civilizations defined by Kardashev scale

Current status of human civilization[edit]

Total World, Annual Primary Energy Consumption.

Color photo. Man sitting wearing a suit and smiling.

According to the astronomer Carl Sagan, humanity through a phase of technical adolescence, “typical of a civilization about to integrate the type I Kardashev scale.

Further information: World energy consumption

Michio Kaku suggested that humans may attain Type I status in 100–200 years, Type II status in a few thousand years, and Type III status in 100,000 to a million years.[4]

Carl Sagan suggested defining intermediate values (not considered in Kardashev’s original scale) by interpolating and extrapolating the values given above for types I (1016 W), II (1026 W) and III (1036 W), which would produce the formula

{\displaystyle K={\frac {\log _{10}P-6}{10}}}K = \frac{\log_{10}P - 6} {10},

where value K is a civilization’s Kardashev rating and P is the power it uses, in watts. Using this extrapolation, a “Type 0” civilization, not defined by Kardashev, would control about 1 MW of power, and humanity’s civilization type as of 1973 was about 0.7 (apparently using 10 terawatt (TW) as the value for 1970s humanity).[5]

In 2012, total world energy consumption was 553 exajoules (553×1018 J=153,611 TWh),[6] equivalent to an average power consumption of 17.54 TW (or 0.724 on Sagan’s Kardashev scale).

Observational evidence[edit]

In 2015, a study of galactic mid-infrared emissions came to the conclusion that “Kardashev Type-III civilizations are either very rare or do not exist in the local Universe”.[7] On October 14, 2015, the realization of a strange pattern of light surrounding star KIC 8462852 has raised speculation that a Dyson Sphere (Type II civilization) may have been discovered.[8][9][10][11][12]

In 2016, Paul Glister, author of the Centauri Dreams website, described a signal apparently from the star HD 164595 as requiring the power of a Type I or Type II civilization, if produced by extraterrestrial lifeform.[13] However, in August 2016 it was discovered that the signal’s origin was most likely a military satellite orbiting the Earth.[14]

Energy development[edit]

Type I civilization methods[edit]

  • Large-scale application of fusion power. According to mass-energy equivalence, Type I implies the conversion of about 2 kg of matter to energy per second. An equivalent energy release could theoretically be achieved by fusing approximately 280 kg of hydrogen into helium per second,[15] a rate roughly equivalent to 8.9×109 kg/year. A cubic km of water contains about 1011 kg of hydrogen, and the Earth’s oceans contain about 1.3×109 cubic km of water, meaning that humans on Earth could sustain this rate of consumption over geological time-scales, in terms of available hydrogen.
  • Antimatter in large quantities would have a mechanism to produce power on a scale several magnitudes above our current level of technology. In antimatter-matter collisions, the entire rest mass of the particles is converted to radiant energy. Their energy density (energy released per mass) is about four orders of magnitude greater than that from using nuclear fission, and about two orders of magnitude greater than the best possible yield from fusion.[16]The reaction of 1 kg of anti-matter with 1 kg of matter would produce 1.8×1017 J (180 petajoules) of energy.[17] Although antimatter is sometimes proposed as a source of energy, this does not appear feasible. Artificially producing antimatter – according to current understanding of the laws of physics – involves first converting energy into mass, so no net gain results. Artificially created antimatter is only usable as a medium of energy storage, not as an energy source, unless future technological developments (contrary to the conservation of the baryon number, such as a CP violation in favour of antimatter) allow the conversion of ordinary matter into anti-matter. Theoretically, humans may in the future have the capability to cultivate and harvest a number of naturally occurring sources of antimatter.[18][19][20]
  • Renewable energy through converting sunlight into electricity – either by using solar cells and concentrating solar power or indirectly through wind and hydroelectric power. There is no known way for human civilization to use the equivalent of the Earth’s total absorbed solar energy without completely coating the surface with human-made structures, which is not feasible with current technology. However, if a civilization constructed very large space-based solar power satellites, Type I power levels might become achievable- these could convert sunlight to microwave power and beam that to collectors on Earth.

Figure of a Dyson swarm surrounding a star

Type II civilization methods[edit]

  • Type II civilizations might use the same techniques employed by a Type I civilization, but applied to a large number of planets in a large number of planetary systems.
  • A Dyson sphere or Dyson swarm and similar constructs are hypothetical megastructures originally described by Freeman Dyson as a system of orbiting solar power satellites meant to enclose a star completely and capture most or all of its energy output.[21]
  • Perhaps a more exotic means to generate usable energy would be to feed a stellar mass into a black hole, and collect photons emitted by the accretion disc.[22][23] Less exotic would be simply to capture photons already escaping from the accretion disc, reducing a black hole’s angular momentum; this is known as the Penrose process.
  • Star lifting is a process where an advanced civilization could remove a substantial portion of a star’s matter in a controlled manner for other uses.
  • Antimatter is likely to be produced as an industrial byproduct of a number of megascale engineering processes (such as the aforementioned star lifting) and therefore could be recycled.[citation needed]
  • In multiple-star systems of a sufficiently large number of stars, absorbing a small but significant fraction of the output of each individual star.

Type III civilization methods[edit]

  • Type III civilizations might use the same techniques employed by a Type II civilization, but applied to all possible stars of one or more galaxies individually.[2]
  • They may also be able to tap into the energy released from the supermassive black holes which are believed to exist at the center of most galaxies.
  • White holes, if they exist, theoretically could provide large amounts of energy from collecting the matter propelling outwards.
  • Capturing the energy of gamma-ray bursts is another theoretically possible power source for a highly advanced civilization.
  • The emissions from quasars can be readily compared to those of small active galaxies and could provide a massive power source if collectable.

Civilization implications[edit]

There are many historical examples of human civilization undergoing large-scale transitions, such as the Industrial Revolution. The transition between Kardashev scale levels could potentially represent similarly dramatic periods of social upheaval, since they entail surpassing the hard limits of the resources available in a civilization’s existing territory. A common speculation[24] suggests that the transition from Type 0 to Type I might carry a strong risk of self-destruction since, in some scenarios, there would no longer be room for further expansion on the civilization’s home planet, as in a Malthusian catastrophe. Excessive use of energy without adequate disposal of heat, for example, could plausibly make the planet of a civilization approaching Type I unsuitable to the biology of the dominant life-forms and their food sources. If Earth is an example, then sea temperatures in excess of 35 °C (95 °F) would jeopardize marine life and make the cooling of mammals to temperatures suitable for their metabolism difficult if not impossible. Of course, these theoretical speculations may not become problems in reality thanks to evolution or the application of future engineering and technology. Also, by the time a civilization reaches Type I it may have colonized other planets or created O’Neill-type colonies, so that waste heat could be distributed throughout the planetary system.

Extensions to the original scale[edit]

Many extensions and modifications to the Kardashev scale have been proposed.

  • Type 4 Kardashev Rating: The most straight forward extension of the scale to even more hypothetical Type IV beings who can control or use the entire universe or Type V who control collections of universes. The power output of the visible universe is within a few orders of magnitude of 1045 W. Such a civilization approaches or surpasses the limits of speculation based on current scientific understanding, and may not be possible.
    • Zoltán Galántai has argued that such a civilization could not be detected, as its activities would be indistinguishable from the workings of nature (there being nothing to compare them to).[25]
  • Type 4 Kardashev-Kaku Ratings (Michio Kaku): In his book Parallel Worlds, Michio Kaku has discussed a Type IV civilization that could harness “extragalactic” energy sources such as dark energy.[26]
  • Kardashev Alternate Rating Characteristics: Other proposed changes to the scale use different metrics such as ‘mastery’ of systems, amount of information used, or progress in control of the very small as opposed to the very large.
  • Planet Mastery (Robert Zubrin): Metrics other than pure power usage have also been proposed. One is ‘mastery’ of a planet, system or galaxy rather than considering energy alone.[27]
  • Information Mastery (Carl Sagan): Alternatively, Carl Sagan suggested adding another dimension in addition to pure energy usage: the information available to the civilization.
    • He assigned the letter A to represent 106 unique bits of information (less than any recorded human culture) and each successive letter to represent an order of magnitude increase, so that a level Z civilization would have 1031 bits.
    • In this classification, 1973 Earth is a 0.7 H civilization, with access to 1013 bits of information.
    • Sagan believed that no civilization has yet reached level Z, conjecturing that so much unique information would exceed that of all the intelligent species in a galactic supercluster and observing that the universe is not old enough to exchange information effectively over larger distances.
    • The information and energy axes are not strictly interdependent, so that even a level Z civilization would not need to be Kardashev Type Ⅲ.[5]
  • Microdimensional Mastery (John Barrow): John D. Barrow, going by the fact that humans have found it more cost-effective to extend any abilities to manipulate their environment over increasingly smaller dimensions rather than increasingly larger ones, reverses the classification downward from Type Ⅰ-minus to Type Omega-minus:
    • Type Ⅰ-minus is capable of manipulating objects over the scale of themselves: building structures, mining, joining and breaking solids;
    • Type Ⅱ-minus is capable of manipulating genes and altering the development of living things, transplanting or replacing parts of themselves, reading and engineering their genetic code;
    • Type Ⅲ-minus is capable of manipulating molecules and molecular bonds, creating new materials;
    • Type Ⅳ-minus is capable of manipulating individual atoms, creating nanotechnologies on the atomic scale and creating complex forms of artificial life;
    • Type Ⅴ-minus is capable of manipulating the atomic nucleus and engineering the nucleons that compose it;
    • Type Ⅵ-minus is capable of manipulating the most elementary particles of matter (quarks and leptons) to create organized complexity among populations of elementary particles; culminating in;
    • Type Omega-minus is capable of manipulating the basic structure of space and time.[28]

According to this scale, humans, having wide expertise in various branches of Chemistry and Biology have passed the stage of Type III- minus. Signs of type IV-minus (that have had practical and widespread applications) have been seen in areas like nuclear physics, semiconductors and genetic engineering.

  • Civilizational Range (Robert Zubrin): Robert Zubrin adapts the Kardashev scale to refer to how widespread a civilization is in space, rather than to its energy use.
    • In his definition, a Type I civilization has spread across its planet.
    • A Type II has extensive colonies in its respective stellar system, and
    • A Type III has colonized its galaxy.[27]


It has been argued that, because we cannot understand advanced civilizations, we cannot predict their behavior. Thus, the Kardashev scale may not be relevant or useful for classifying extraterrestrial civilizations. This central argument is found in the book Evolving the Alien: The Science of Extraterrestrial Life.[29]

It has also been argued from the standpoint of efficiency that the Kardashev scale requires further development. Should a civilization be able to harness energy of whatever arbitrarily large scale, it does not mean that it has likewise developed a commensurate ability to use that power with efficiency.

Posit a star system wherein a star-shrouding cloud of pebbles plays host to photosynthetic algae or bacteria that almost completely surround a star. Such a ‘civilization’ may have the means to acquire, and have access to, far more energy than that is available on Earth either proportionately or in absolute terms. Nonetheless we would not call such a civilization ‘technologically more advanced’ in virtue of its resource advantage alone even if it were to completely absorb all the energy from said star.

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John Titor retired from the Air Force and entered private life to make the public aware of environmental issues the world faces and force the issue of Disclosure with the government. He is the author of numerous articles on politics, threats to the United States and the environment.


March 13, 1997 – the Phoenix Lights

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